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Post by windy1970 on Feb 25, 2024 11:09:02 GMT
The situation this season is that only the bottom club in the NL1 will be relegated. In NL2 it’s another season of slide rule that determines which clubs are relegated. Petermiller36 on X(formerly twitter) does a decent spreadsheet on his bio and keeps it up to date. The bottom club will be relegated and at the moment the 5 worst ppg basis 2nd bottom clubs across step 6 are also inline for relegation. Washington have now fallen into this category and are 4th bottom in that particular relegation league. This might not mean that they will be relegated, because every feeder league that doesn’t promote a club(that’s from leagues with applicants), will reduce the number of relegation spots at step 6. Also any clubs promoted last year that fail the ground grading and are demoted, will also reduce the number and same with any clubs that resign before the league constitutions are released.
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Post by pooliehopper on Feb 25, 2024 11:40:04 GMT
So what happens if all three local step 7 leagues have a passing applicant? How many teams will NL2 have?
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Post by sikirk on Feb 25, 2024 12:39:04 GMT
The northern league will have one club less than this season the way things are going. 3 promoted into the league, 2 relegated and 2 promoted to northern premeir, not looking like any north east teams will be relegated into the league this season. Of course theres the big question over marske who i think should be at wearside level
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Post by windy1970 on Feb 25, 2024 13:06:45 GMT
So what happens if all three local step 7 leagues have a passing applicant? How many teams will NL2 have? The FA league committee doesn’t look at localised matters. Promotion from the feeder leagues has no bearing whatsoever on step 6 leagues. The clubs either pass or fail and the ones that pass are pooled and placed into the most relevant leagues. A side effect may lead to clubs on the edge of the league being laterally transferred. But all of the clubs in this category are currently in NL1 and are unlikely to be moved.
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Post by windy1970 on Feb 25, 2024 13:08:45 GMT
The northern league will have one club less than this season the way things are going. 3 promoted into the league, 2 relegated and 2 promoted to northern premeir, not looking like any north east teams will be relegated into the league this season. Of course theres the big question over marske who i think should be at wearside level Any grading issues in the pipeline for clubs that were promoted last season(aka North Shields scenario)
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Post by Neil on Feb 25, 2024 14:21:01 GMT
The situation this season is that only the bottom club in the NL1 will be relegated. In NL2 it’s another season of slide rule that determines which clubs are relegated. Petermiller36 on X(formerly twitter) does a decent spreadsheet on his bio and keeps it up to date. The bottom club will be relegated and at the moment the 5 worst ppg basis 2nd bottom clubs across step 6 are also inline for relegation. Washington have now fallen into this category and are 4th bottom in that particular relegation league. This might not mean that they will be relegated, because every feeder league that doesn’t promote a club(that’s from leagues with applicants), will reduce the number of relegation spots at step 6. Also any clubs promoted last year that fail the ground grading and are demoted, will also reduce the number and same with any clubs that resign before the league constitutions are released. Thanks Windy, very informative.
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Post by JayTheSynner on Feb 25, 2024 15:28:33 GMT
mental how many games they want division two to play. 22 teams at the minute, wouldnt surprise me to see that increase, FA Vase, County Cup, League Cup, Second Division Cup
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Post by parsjake on Feb 25, 2024 16:14:00 GMT
Of course theres the big question over marske who i think should be at wearside level I don't see why we'd be put into the Wearside league when we're in the catchment area for the North Riding League.
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Post by sikirk on Feb 25, 2024 17:08:39 GMT
Of course theres the big question over marske who i think should be at wearside level I don't see why we'd be put into the Wearside league when we're in the catchment area for the North Riding League. Yeah meant same level as wearside which in marskes case would be north riding, maybe replace reserves?
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Post by footyfollower on Feb 25, 2024 19:07:59 GMT
The northern league will have one club less than this season the way things are going. 3 promoted into the league, 2 relegated and 2 promoted to northern premeir, not looking like any north east teams will be relegated into the league this season. Of course theres the big question over marske who i think should be at wearside level Any grading issues in the pipeline for clubs that were promoted last season(aka North Shields scenario) Are Aycliffe progressing with their ground improvements ?
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Post by sikirk on Feb 25, 2024 19:49:24 GMT
Any grading issues in the pipeline for clubs that were promoted last season(aka North Shields scenario) Are Aycliffe progressing with their ground improvements ? Good point. If they have not upgraded ground already then surely they should be starting very soon. Would be a shame to see another club demoted for ground issues
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Post by england on Feb 25, 2024 21:40:51 GMT
Are Aycliffe progressing with their ground improvements ? Good point. If they have not upgraded ground already then surely they should be starting very soon. Would be a shame to see another club demoted for ground issues It would be a bigger shame that once again a club decided to have a decent budget, and spent their finances on players rather than infrastructure, if that did happen!
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Post by hoopy on Feb 26, 2024 7:22:57 GMT
Any grading issues in the pipeline for clubs that were promoted last season(aka North Shields scenario) Are Aycliffe progressing with their ground improvements ? The last I heard (and I stress it wasn't anything official, just rumours) they have no intention of doing any work. They have substantial changes to make, including a stand and can't/won't pay out. However Ashington have everything in hand. The work on the perimeter fence is under way, and the turnstile is ordered. There were other minor issues (our emergency exit signage was deemed to be faded and needed replaced for example) but everything is on target to be completed. The NPL is much more stringent about ground grading than the Northern League ever was. If you miss ANYTHING they'll pull you for it. For example, they visited in the summer and failed us for not having a technical area marked out - well it was summer and we hadn't bothered wasting paint and time doing it. Also, they pulled us for not having a physio table in the home dressing room, despite having a separate room for it (which is allowed under the grading rules, but they forgot apparently).
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Post by sikirk on Feb 26, 2024 8:06:55 GMT
Are Aycliffe progressing with their ground improvements ? The last I heard (and I stress it wasn't anything official, just rumours) they have no intention of doing any work. They have substantial changes to make, including a stand and can't/won't pay out. However Ashington have everything in hand. The work on the perimeter fence is under way, and the turnstile is ordered. There were other minor issues (our emergency exit signage was deemed to be faded and needed replaced for example) but everything is on target to be completed. The NPL is much more stringent about ground grading than the Northern League ever was. If you miss ANYTHING they'll pull you for it. For example, they visited in the summer and failed us for not having a technical area marked out - well it was summer and we hadn't bothered wasting paint and time doing it. Also, they pulled us for not having a physio table in the home dressing room, despite having a separate room for it (which is allowed under the grading rules, but they forgot apparently). A club should not have to do major work when been promoted, the ground standard should always be knocking on the door of the next level up. If a ground is like north shields and fails northern premier ground grading by a mile you have to ask its standard for northern league level. Would be a farce if aycliffe are demoted despite been mid-table. If the cant upgrade ground they may as well field a second string squad.
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Post by hoopy on Feb 26, 2024 8:22:59 GMT
The last I heard (and I stress it wasn't anything official, just rumours) they have no intention of doing any work. They have substantial changes to make, including a stand and can't/won't pay out. However Ashington have everything in hand. The work on the perimeter fence is under way, and the turnstile is ordered. There were other minor issues (our emergency exit signage was deemed to be faded and needed replaced for example) but everything is on target to be completed. The NPL is much more stringent about ground grading than the Northern League ever was. If you miss ANYTHING they'll pull you for it. For example, they visited in the summer and failed us for not having a technical area marked out - well it was summer and we hadn't bothered wasting paint and time doing it. Also, they pulled us for not having a physio table in the home dressing room, despite having a separate room for it (which is allowed under the grading rules, but they forgot apparently). A club should not have to do major work when been promoted, the ground standard should always be knocking on the door of the next level up. If a ground is like north shields and fails northern premier ground grading by a mile you have to ask its standard for northern league level. Would be a farce if aycliffe are demoted despite been mid-table. If the cant upgrade ground they may as well field a second string squad. Think clubs have got used to the northern league turning a blind idea when it comes to favoured clubs but honestly, the NPL are shit hot when it comes to every detail of the grading. That said you have to keep them on their toes and check what they're telling you. As well as the physio table, they flagged the pitch as being slightly too narrow. However they were using Noah's fabric tape measure which had stretched over the centuries, and a quick measurement with a new metal one showed we were well within the requirements.
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