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Post by windy1970 on Feb 27, 2024 20:28:46 GMT
Wonder who candidates for lateral transfers will be this time. Northallerton? If they do some moves at step 5 and put marske in NL 1 I’d say that they aren’t the prime candidate for lateral transfer. The two Cumbrian clubs are more likely and tbh I’d personally say that there’s more chance of a club being laterally transferred into the league, rather than one moving out. So Pickering and Kendal are potentially in the frame.
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Post by lovingnonleague on Feb 27, 2024 22:00:38 GMT
I can't really argue with anything you've said mate, I'd like to but I got nothing! As a supporter it's been bloody awful watching the whole mess unfold. For a wee while there were whispers of a £100,000 black hole but reality finally bit when the NPL suspended us for 2 home games while they looked into the proposed shares issue. From then on there was that sense of inevitability and there was a meeting in the supporter's club after our resignation. Hearing it all spelled out point by point was some eye-opener. The day Redcar Athletic swooped and signed four of our players at once was the worst bit of all, funnily enough. Can't blame them tbh, but it still hurt like hell because you knew there was no going back from things now. And with Carl Jarrett at the helm just to rub a bit more salt in. A bit like watching your ex eating a pie... Well fair play to you for sticking with it pal.
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Post by townypride on Feb 27, 2024 22:00:49 GMT
Northallerton? If they do some moves at step 5 and put marske in NL 1 I’d say that they aren’t the prime candidate for lateral transfer. The two Cumbrian clubs are more likely and tbh I’d personally say that there’s more chance of a club being laterally transferred into the league, rather than one moving out. So Pickering and Kendal are potentially in the frame. I can't see the logic in transferring Penrith and Carlisle into the NCWFL and Kendal going in the opposite direction. Kendal is further away from all North East clubs than both Carlisle and Penrith and surely will remain were they are.
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Post by pooliehopper on Feb 28, 2024 0:24:18 GMT
I still remember when Knaresborough and Harrogate RA were linked with NL moves.
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Post by sikirk on Feb 28, 2024 6:38:29 GMT
I’d say that they aren’t the prime candidate for lateral transfer. The two Cumbrian clubs are more likely and tbh I’d personally say that there’s more chance of a club being laterally transferred into the league, rather than one moving out. So Pickering and Kendal are potentially in the frame. I can't see the logic in transferring Penrith and Carlisle into the NCWFL and Kendal going in the opposite direction. Kendal is further away from all North East clubs than both Carlisle and Penrith and surely will remain were they are. Me neither especially as nwcl is more crowded than northern league
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Post by windy1970 on Feb 28, 2024 6:42:46 GMT
I’d say that they aren’t the prime candidate for lateral transfer. The two Cumbrian clubs are more likely and tbh I’d personally say that there’s more chance of a club being laterally transferred into the league, rather than one moving out. So Pickering and Kendal are potentially in the frame. I can't see the logic in transferring Penrith and Carlisle into the NCWFL and Kendal going in the opposite direction. Kendal is further away from all North East clubs than both Carlisle and Penrith and surely will remain were they are. I wasn’t saying that the 2 Cumbrian clubs were inline for lateral transfer and being replaced by Kendal. My point was that they are more likely to be moved than Northallerton. But if there was going to be any lateral transfers, it would be from the NWCL to the NL and the likely candidate would be Kendal.
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Post by townypride on Feb 28, 2024 8:53:00 GMT
I can't see the logic in transferring Penrith and Carlisle into the NCWFL and Kendal going in the opposite direction. Kendal is further away from all North East clubs than both Carlisle and Penrith and surely will remain were they are. I wasn’t saying that the 2 Cumbrian clubs were inline for lateral transfer and being replaced by Kendal. My point was that they are more likely to be moved than Northallerton. But if there was going to be any lateral transfers, it would be from the NWCL to the NL and the likely candidate would be Kendal. Why would Kendal be the likely candidate?. If the FA wanted to transfer a team into the NL then travelling hopefully would be considered. It would involve several 200 mile round trips to Tyneside's 8/9 clubs would Knaresborough from the NCEFL be a better option? although having said that we must take into account that the FA do move in mysterious ways.
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Post by hoopy on Feb 28, 2024 9:38:03 GMT
I wasn’t saying that the 2 Cumbrian clubs were inline for lateral transfer and being replaced by Kendal. My point was that they are more likely to be moved than Northallerton. But if there was going to be any lateral transfers, it would be from the NWCL to the NL and the likely candidate would be Kendal. Why would Kendal be the likely candidate?. If the FA wanted to transfer a team into the NL then travelling hopefully would be considered. It would involve several 200 mile round trips to Tyneside's 8/9 clubs would Knaresborough from the NCEFL be a better option? although having said that we must take into account that the FA do move in mysterious ways. I can see Pickering and Knaresborough bouncing between the NCEL and the Northern League (unless they get promoted) to be honest.
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Post by parsjake on Feb 28, 2024 12:16:48 GMT
I still remember when Knaresborough and Harrogate RA were linked with NL moves. My inner anorak is twitching here, weren't Knaresborough briefly in the NL in the 1920's or sometime around then?
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Post by parsjake on Feb 28, 2024 12:18:48 GMT
Clubs have ups and downs but at least the current lot did the right thing in the long run despite how bad it must have felt at the time. Debts paid and Marske United name carries on. Can't take those title wins away. The titles and recent success feels a bit tainted at the moment now we know it was built on sand, hopefully that will pass.
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Post by parsjake on Feb 28, 2024 12:23:01 GMT
I can't really argue with anything you've said mate, I'd like to but I got nothing! As a supporter it's been bloody awful watching the whole mess unfold. For a wee while there were whispers of a £100,000 black hole but reality finally bit when the NPL suspended us for 2 home games while they looked into the proposed shares issue. From then on there was that sense of inevitability and there was a meeting in the supporter's club after our resignation. Hearing it all spelled out point by point was some eye-opener. The day Redcar Athletic swooped and signed four of our players at once was the worst bit of all, funnily enough. Can't blame them tbh, but it still hurt like hell because you knew there was no going back from things now. And with Carl Jarrett at the helm just to rub a bit more salt in. A bit like watching your ex eating a pie... Well fair play to you for sticking with it pal. Support your team through thick and thin, things have never been thinner but once we get to May we can start to look forward again.
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Post by sikirk on Feb 28, 2024 12:37:21 GMT
Whether its a yorkshire based northern league team transfered out of the league or one moving in from yorkshire like Knaresborough you can guarantee they will be appeals and clubs very hacked off. As much as the fa can make mistakes they have to fill leagues and the area between ripon and darlington on the a1 corridoor been a desert for northern league clubs makes things difficult
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Post by windy1970 on Feb 28, 2024 12:57:54 GMT
Why would Kendal be the likely candidate?. If the FA wanted to transfer a team into the NL then travelling hopefully would be considered. It would involve several 200 mile round trips to Tyneside's 8/9 clubs would Knaresborough from the NCEFL be a better option? although having said that we must take into account that the FA do move in mysterious ways. I can see Pickering and Knaresborough bouncing between the NCEL and the Northern League (unless they get promoted) to be honest. The issue in the pyramid at step 5 isn’t with the NCEL, it’s with the NWCL. It has 2 step 6 leagues that potentially feed into it and the NPL1W is the NWCL Super League all but in name. So they are gaining clubs from above and below every season and that’s why long-standing former NWCL clubs are now residing in the MFL Prem. The NWCL Prem currently has 24 clubs and this is too many at this level. The recommendations in the FA rules are for divisions of between 18-22. So that’s why in my opinion Kendal are more inline for lateral transfer than the two clubs that you mentioned. Kendal aren’t close to any clubs in the NWCL and aren’t actually too far from Penrith. I’m sure there’s good arguments that all Cumbrian clubs should be in the NWCL, with the transport network being better north/south rather than east/west.
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Post by windy1970 on Feb 28, 2024 13:02:55 GMT
Whether its a yorkshire based northern league team transfered out of the league or one moving in from yorkshire like Knaresborough you can guarantee they will be appeals and clubs very hacked off. As much as the fa can make mistakes they have to fill leagues and the area between ripon and darlington on the a1 corridoor been a desert for northern league clubs makes things difficult I know that the NCEL has spoken with the FA about the fact that the York Minster League has never had an applicant for promotion. The actual reason leagues actually achieve feeder league status, is that they engage in the process. So the issue is twofold, the Northern YML clubs have zero interest in being promoted and William the Conqueror’s Harrying of the North has never recovered in large parts of North Yorkshire.
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Post by pooliehopper on Feb 28, 2024 14:37:31 GMT
I still remember when Knaresborough and Harrogate RA were linked with NL moves. My inner anorak is twitching here, weren't Knaresborough briefly in the NL in the 1920's or sometime around then? Think so and to be brutally honest if you're based in Teesside or south durham it's not too bad. Different story for tyneside and Northumberland clubs though
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