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Post by kingsway12 on Mar 23, 2024 20:01:05 GMT
1981/82 season the Northern League from it's 20 clubs had 4 in the 1st round proper of the FA cup, players going full time into the football league. Thus the deterioration stems from then to today, the Wearside League was a stronger league then than the Northern League today. The league will be weakened with automatic promotions, as with the dominance in the FA Vase has curtailed for the present. Some of the facilities especially with changing rooms are dire, the older grounds not modernised apart from installing showers, the new grounds have no character, thus the level the Northern League finds itself is simply a stepping stone, rather than a league that it once was a level below the National League now. Lack of ambition by the custodians of the league over many decades are in part to blame for the decline, seizing the 90% grants that were available to clubs to re-generate facilities were not taken, opportunities lost.
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Post by handifan on Mar 24, 2024 0:24:30 GMT
The decline of the northern league has been spectacular and was inevitable when they decided not to partake in the pyramid. Football changed, the northern league didn’t. That was incredibly short sighted and egotistical.
By comparison, North East non league football is in a much better place in recent years. There are so many options for young players coming out of academies to have a good career and possibly make it back to the pro scene. The northern league’s decision decades ago not only eventually damaged the league’s status at a national level, it damaged north east non league football.
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Post by handifan on Mar 24, 2024 1:53:36 GMT
He's absolutely correct. Staying in the NL now is effectively relegation by stealth. It certainly was the case in the past. If you ascribe to the notion that Northern League was at step 2 in the 70’s there have been 3 such mass relegations by stealth. Nowadays, I think it is where it is and will suffer because standards in football generally are degrading from the bottom up. Amos was right when he said it’s “Devil take the hindmost” because football today at grass roots level has so many other activities which compete for participation. With FFP and the academy system, football has never been so stratified at all levels of the game. In the 70’s at youth level, the pro clubs would generally pluck players from boys clubs around the age of 17 as apprentices. Take Sunderland’s FA cup winning team as an example, a large number of the squad were signed from local boys clubs at 17. Non league clubs would do the same. What this meant was that the northern league and WL could pick up good young players who during their youth were playing week in week out against young players who were potential future FA cup winners and young players who had the ability to turn pro. There are a couple of golden rules in all sports…..if your competition is shite, all you get good at is playing against shite competition. If you train shite, all you get good at is playing shite. When the academy system was set up it was a great move for elite clubs and elite players but was a bad move for standards at the bottom end of football. I think this trend will continue to degrade standards at the lower levels of football and increase the gap between the top and bottom ends of non league. |
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Post by barryrix on Apr 4, 2024 6:23:04 GMT
Having sat through the rain watching his side on Monday for the 4th time this season -
He’s absolutely bang on - the standard has dropped. Some terrible footballers (in both sides) that wouldn’t play for the decent Sunday morning teams 5 years ago never mind Northern League Division One and getting paid for the privilege.
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Post by bigcbeat1 on Apr 4, 2024 6:33:26 GMT
Having sat through the rain watching his side on Monday for the 4th time this season - He’s absolutely bang on - the standard has dropped. Some terrible footballers (in both sides) that wouldn’t play for the decent Sunday morning teams 5 years ago never mind Northern League Division One and getting paid for the privilege. The craming in of games due to fa insisting some clubs finish on 20th April is forcing some clubs to use players they previously wouldn’t . Forcing 4 games in a week on some is downright outrageous. I expect some crazy results in the final run in |
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Post by barryrix on Apr 4, 2024 7:21:12 GMT
Having sat through the rain watching his side on Monday for the 4th time this season - He’s absolutely bang on - the standard has dropped. Some terrible footballers (in both sides) that wouldn’t play for the decent Sunday morning teams 5 years ago never mind Northern League Division One and getting paid for the privilege. The craming in of games due to fa insisting some clubs finish on 20th April is forcing some clubs to use players they previously wouldn’t . Forcing 4 games in a week on some is downright outrageous. I expect some crazy results in the final run in I couldn’t disagree with that. Shocking decision from the FA not to extend the season. Even one week would relieve some of the strain. |
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Post by windy1970 on Apr 4, 2024 9:38:57 GMT
The NWCL stacked a lot of the league games at the start of the season and I’m not too sure why the NL didn’t follow suit
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Post by jumpersforgoalsposts on Apr 4, 2024 11:22:19 GMT
Dinosaurs at the helm!
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Post by handifan on Apr 4, 2024 11:36:17 GMT
Warm wet winters have been the norm now for 30 years. It’s obvious to anyone they have to fit as many games as possible into early season.
NL clubs don’t do well in the vase any more. FA cup is over for most before September. League cup and county cup are less important. Two league games per week until December and you’ve broken the back of the league season. It’s so obvious.
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Post by sikirk on Apr 4, 2024 11:38:03 GMT
The NWCL stacked a lot of the league games at the start of the season and I’m not too sure why the NL didn’t follow suit Hopefully will from next season onwards, get them county and league cups played in july too |
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Post by mut on Apr 4, 2024 15:47:29 GMT
The NWCL stacked a lot of the league games at the start of the season and I’m not too sure why the NL didn’t follow suit Hopefully will from next season onwards, get them county and league cups played in july too Highly doubt it.theyl just ask for an extension again |
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Post by j on Apr 5, 2024 6:21:57 GMT
Warm wet winters have been the norm now for 30 years. It’s obvious to anyone they have to fit as many games as possible into early season. NL clubs don’t do well in the vase any more. FA cup is over for most before September. League cup and county cup are less important. Two league games per week until December and you’ve broken the back of the league season. It’s so obvious. Yep, it's absolutely outrageous how few fixtures are scheduled during the opening months of the season. Happens every season and the rain this year has made a bad (but largely avoidable) situation even worse. |
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Post by windy1970 on Apr 5, 2024 8:18:25 GMT
Hopefully will from next season onwards, get them county and league cups played in july too Highly doubt it.theyl just ask for an extension again Most clubs across the NWCL have between 2-4 remaining games. The 2 outliers are Charnock Richard and IOM, who have 9 & 7 remaining games. The northwest is the wettest part of the country and the NWCL Prem has 24 clubs in it. So you could understand why a couple of clubs are going to have a tough end to the season, luckily neither of those clubs are involved in promotion, relegation or playoff issues. The NL doesn’t really have an excuse does it! They could’ve completed 5 or 6 games in August and 10-12 before the end of September. |
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