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Post by pooliehopper on Dec 17, 2023 12:09:11 GMT
Marske United would have probably been OK had they actually done the correct paperwork and did the ownership change in the off-season, albeit you could argue the fact the prior ownership wanted to bail out ASAP was a red flag.
They only lost 3-1 to Ilkeston yesterday, hardly a horror result in comparison to what Tow Law and Sunderland RCA get every week.
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Post by bigcbeat1 on Dec 17, 2023 12:15:37 GMT
Bang on England.you can't blame automatic promotion for north shield refusing to bring the ground up to standard,and I'd suspect keep the money that was raised. Nor can you blame it on marske spending 25 to 30 grand per month on players wages.....they have an easier way out of this,allow the players to join other clubs for free and drastically reduce the bill.but no they are trying their damdest to keep team together.so what next,ask for the 300k during summer so can see next year out? Some great points there. Personally I think whoever looks after the money is to blame. The biggest mistake that can be made is paying wages to players on predicted income. Whatever your budget is surely that should be in the bank before a ball is kicked . A few postponed home games should not damage a club to the point they face going under . Plain and simple don’t spend what you haven't got. North Shields board and committee must take the blame for allowing the club to get into this mess they are now in. I don’t think the supposed donations from Longstaff and Fender even happened, if they did receive what’s been suggested then they are 100% to blame.
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Post by bigcbeat1 on Dec 17, 2023 12:17:17 GMT
So what are the possibilities for Shields? 1 Fold, and start as a new club next season in the Alliance or Wearside 2 Fold and disappear completely 3 Limp on to the end of the season in the NL , getting hammered every week, but certainly not finishing bottom of the league as they have enough points already to stay up There are many more clued up people on this forum than me who could help answer the question New board and committee should be the first thing to be addressed.
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Post by pooliehopper on Dec 17, 2023 12:17:20 GMT
So what are the possibilities for Shields? 1 Fold, and start as a new club next season in the Alliance or Wearside 2 Fold and disappear completely 3 Limp on to the end of the season in the NL , getting hammered every week, but certainly not finishing bottom of the league as they have enough points already to stay up There are many more clued up people on this forum than me who could help answer the question Best bet is play on in the NL getting hammered, isn't it? (number 3) I mean, with all the reprieves thus far which might happen they might not even get relegated, especially with Tow Law and RCA looking unlikely to move anywhere. That'd probably give the club enough time to plan things behind the scenes for the season after? Surely there'd be someone related to North Shields who could get a ragtag bunch of veterans and youths to finish the season?
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Post by malvern2 on Dec 17, 2023 12:20:54 GMT
People mention Tow Law. It’s significant and indicative of how well the club has been run that they have had a team in the ENL for over 100 yrs in a village of only and 1800 population. On the field they’re having a struggle but off field they coul teach a thing or two to several other clubs.
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Post by england on Dec 17, 2023 12:23:03 GMT
Marske United would have probably been OK had they actually done the correct paperwork and did the ownership change in the off-season, albeit you could argue the fact the prior ownership wanted to bail out ASAP was a red flag. They only lost 3-1 to Ilkeston yesterday, hardly a horror result in comparison to what Tow Law and Sunderland RCA get every week. There is nothing wrong with getting relegated, clubs will always find their natural level. That level may change depending upon finances, just a little frustrating to see clubs say they need to continue as normal or they will fold.
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Post by england on Dec 17, 2023 12:25:34 GMT
People mention Tow Law. It’s significant and indicative of how well the club has been run that they have had a team in the ENL for over 100 yrs in a village of only and 1800 population. On the field they’re having a struggle but off field they coul teach a thing or two to several other clubs. 100% this, they might be having a rough season this season, but guess what, no begging bowls about money. They will simply pay all their bills, likely be relegated and re group in the division below. Steve deserves great credit for this.
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Post by attorney on Dec 17, 2023 12:54:39 GMT
malvern2 & england, thanks for all the kind words about OUR CLUB, Tow Law Town. Yes, we had issues around July regarding our finances. Yes, our manager left & all but 1 senior player left to join other Clubs. We set a budget that we knew could be sustained over the full season & thanks to our sponsors has been upped as we look to rebuild. We will fight to stay in this Divsion & we will not put the future of Tow Law Town financially at risk.
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Post by elquesogrande on Dec 17, 2023 13:48:19 GMT
If they don’t go pop, the rest of their games this season will be a joke. Could the season be decided by future games at both ends of the season. With double figure scores and everyone taking points off them Already the case with tow law who are getting beat by double figures, would be a farce if theres two teams in the same division in the same boat not the mention the Brandon situation which surely should be resolved before xmas one way or another Three clubs in the same division in the same boat, don't forget RCA.
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Post by windy1970 on Dec 17, 2023 14:03:38 GMT
Already the case with tow law who are getting beat by double figures, would be a farce if theres two teams in the same division in the same boat not the mention the Brandon situation which surely should be resolved before xmas one way or another Three clubs in the same division in the same boat, don't forget RCA. I wonder what happens if all the clubs in trouble go pop and I include Marske in this scenario? How will the FALC sustain the NL1?
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Post by bigcbeat1 on Dec 17, 2023 15:14:47 GMT
malvern2 & england, thanks for all the kind words about OUR CLUB, Tow Law Town. Yes, we had issues around July regarding our finances. Yes, our manager left & all but 1 senior player left to join other Clubs. We set a budget that we knew could be sustained over the full season & thanks to our sponsors has been upped as we look to rebuild. We will fight to stay in this Divsion & we will not put the future of Tow Law Town financially at risk. Exactly right Steve.
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Post by sikirk on Dec 17, 2023 15:31:54 GMT
What baffles me is north shields managed to raise all the money for the ground improvement although maybe a little too late to avoid demotion so why not start the work during the summer, if not done now things will only get more expensive down the line. Without the ground improvements its pointless investing in a squad capable of challenging near the top. I also wonder if players were still in wages they were getting in the northern premier
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Post by mut on Dec 17, 2023 16:23:33 GMT
So what are the possibilities for Shields? 1 Fold, and start as a new club next season in the Alliance or Wearside 2 Fold and disappear completely 3 Limp on to the end of the season in the NL , getting hammered every week, but certainly not finishing bottom of the league as they have enough points already to stay up There are many more clued up people on this forum than me who could help answer the question Best bet is play on in the NL getting hammered, isn't it? (number 3) I mean, with all the reprieves thus far which might happen they might not even get relegated, especially with Tow Law and RCA looking unlikely to move anywhere. That'd probably give the club enough time to plan things behind the scenes for the season after? Surely there'd be someone related to North Shields who could get a ragtag bunch of veterans and youths to finish the season? Again,bang on.thats what the pyramid is for.so clubs can play at the highest level you can afford.should we of just wrapped in a couple of years ago when we were nothing but a joke.thats right,we must of been as everyone laughed at us.should luton town of just wrapped in because fell from 1st division into the conference?nope you take it on the chin and reset as brighter days will eventually come.......North Shields wouldn't go down anyhow because other clubs can't make up that ground,they'd have 5 month to get through and can reset......marske would go down if get rid of players but so what.plenty others go down around the country year on year and survive to live another day.again non of this has to do with automatic promotion this is over spending with no infrastructure at its best.and promotion didn't kill durham city nor blue star neither
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Post by sikirk on Dec 17, 2023 16:37:49 GMT
Best bet is play on in the NL getting hammered, isn't it? (number 3) I mean, with all the reprieves thus far which might happen they might not even get relegated, especially with Tow Law and RCA looking unlikely to move anywhere. That'd probably give the club enough time to plan things behind the scenes for the season after? Surely there'd be someone related to North Shields who could get a ragtag bunch of veterans and youths to finish the season? Again,bang on.thats what the pyramid is for.so clubs can play at the highest level you can afford.should we of just wrapped in a couple of years ago when we were nothing but a joke.thats right,we must of been as everyone laughed at us.should luton town of just wrapped in because fell from 1st division into the conference?nope you take it on the chin and reset as brighter days will eventually come.......North Shields wouldn't go down anyhow because other clubs can't make up that ground,they'd have 5 month to get through and can reset......marske would go down if get rid of players but so what.plenty others go down around the country year on year and survive to live another day.again non of this has to do with automatic promotion this is over spending with no infrastructure at its best.and promotion didn't kill durham city nor blue star neither I agree mutt but the anti promotion brigade probably wont and will blame markses and n shields woes on compulsery promotion
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Post by shieldsjoyrider on Dec 17, 2023 21:40:40 GMT
It does make you wonder where the prize money from vase win went
That would amount to approx £40~£50k Granted there are expenses to meet
But surely some of this should have been put away for a rain day fund ?
However , from what I’ve heard
I believe the senior NL teams in area , Blyth , Spennymoor and South Shields all owe horrific amounts - most likely to board members
Football is just not sane
I’m fairly close hockey and cricket clubs - we’ve always kept a close eye on finances
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