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Post by brutus on Dec 15, 2023 11:58:09 GMT
To be honest the only reason Iredale got the job was because he brought money with him. A team that finished just outside the playoffs at step 4 and relegated on a technicality shouldn’t be appointing someone who failed woefully in division 2. My sources tell me in the search for a chairman his dad (the one with the actual dosh) wasn’t successful so the traces have been kicked over. Sad for a club like North Shields who have been well supported. I wouldn’t say he failed woefully at Ryton mind. Got to play offs and won the 2nd division cup . I would say that’s not a bad season tbh. Quite successful spell at Ryton & Crawcrook. Missed out on the playoffs on the final game of the season but won the EA Memorial Cup against Newcastle Uni @ Birtley.
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Post by bigfoot on Dec 15, 2023 12:17:44 GMT
The club has just released a statement given their side of the story
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Post by rodentcatcher on Dec 15, 2023 12:25:27 GMT
Wow I mean about as extreme as it can get...all players and management have left the club, basically leaving them mid season on the eve of a match day to start from scratch! Surely they will need a couple of weeks grace to put a squad and management team together.
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Post by sikirk on Dec 15, 2023 12:44:14 GMT
What will happen now, get players from reserves? Things sure seem to have gone sour since there demotion
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Post by england on Dec 15, 2023 12:44:53 GMT
Wow I mean about as extreme as it can get...all players and management have left the club, basically leaving them mid season on the eve of a match day to start from scratch! Surely they will need a couple of weeks grace to put a squad and management team together. Seems to be a few conflicting comments from players.
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Post by brutus on Dec 15, 2023 12:59:48 GMT
Wow I mean about as extreme as it can get...all players and management have left the club, basically leaving them mid season on the eve of a match day to start from scratch! Surely they will need a couple of weeks grace to put a squad and management team together. They'll need more than a couple of weeks with the mess they're in.
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Post by bigcbeat1 on Dec 15, 2023 13:05:30 GMT
I wouldn’t say he failed woefully at Ryton mind. Got to play offs and won the 2nd division cup . I would say that’s not a bad season tbh. Heaton Tow Law Boldon Easington Where the 4 who made the play offs- Ryton missed out Yes , I stand corrected . Ryton just missed out on play offs
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Post by footyfollower on Dec 15, 2023 13:20:28 GMT
What will happen now, get players from reserves? Things sure seem to have gone sour since there demotion There is no reserve team
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Post by tomtom13 on Dec 15, 2023 13:30:28 GMT
I think that there are lots of clubs on the edge at the minute. For me clubs with benefactors or people who part finance a budget because they are involved in the management for example are sooner or later going to run into trouble. Clubs have to be self sustainable via sponsorship, attendances, etc. sooner or later most benefactors or the people who subsidise a clubs budget will pull the plug and a clubs foundations will collapse because they are built on sand. My understanding is that at NSFC a large part of the budget came from the managers family. If that is true then the people providing that money can take it away at any point which seems to have been what has happened. It is a very risky way for a club to exist in my opinion. There are lots of clubs at the minute who have managers and managers families propping up budgets. All credit to them for doing up but for me it's a recipe for disaster especially in today's financial climate.
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Post by england on Dec 15, 2023 13:37:13 GMT
I think that there are lots of clubs on the edge at the minute. For me clubs with benefactors or people who part finance a budget because they are involved in the management for example are sooner or later going to run into trouble. Clubs have to be self sustainable via sponsorship, attendances, etc. sooner or later most benefactors or the people who subsidise a clubs budget will pull the plug and a clubs foundations will collapse because they are built on sand. My understanding is that at NSFC a large part of the budget came from the managers family. If that is true then the people providing that money can take it away at any point which seems to have been what has happened. It is a very risky way for a club to exist in my opinion. There are lots of clubs at the minute who have managers and managers families propping up budgets. All credit to them for doing up but for me it's a recipe for disaster especially in today's financial climate. Completely correct but that doesn’t seem to have been the downfall here. Surely the club has financial management that they have a budget for the season based on potential income. If the manager tops that up then that’s up to him.
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Post by tomtom13 on Dec 15, 2023 13:39:00 GMT
I think that there are lots of clubs on the edge at the minute. For me clubs with benefactors or people who part finance a budget because they are involved in the management for example are sooner or later going to run into trouble. Clubs have to be self sustainable via sponsorship, attendances, etc. sooner or later most benefactors or the people who subsidise a clubs budget will pull the plug and a clubs foundations will collapse because they are built on sand. My understanding is that at NSFC a large part of the budget came from the managers family. If that is true then the people providing that money can take it away at any point which seems to have been what has happened. It is a very risky way for a club to exist in my opinion. There are lots of clubs at the minute who have managers and managers families propping up budgets. All credit to them for doing up but for me it's a recipe for disaster especially in today's financial climate. Completely correct but that doesn’t seem to have been the downfall here. Surely the club has financial management that they have a budget for the season based on potential income. If the manager tops that up then that’s up to him.
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Post by tomtom13 on Dec 15, 2023 13:44:48 GMT
Completely correct but that doesn’t seem to have been the downfall here. Surely the club has financial management that they have a budget for the season based on potential income. If the manager tops that up then that’s up to him. This is my point there finances are obviously reliant on money that was provided my the manager and his family. Every club in the league knows that over the winter there income is down due to weather. At clubs like NSFC where you have players on well over a £100 a week is doesn't take a genius to work out if somebody who is subsidising maybe 50% of your budget pulls the plug your in the shit.
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Post by rodentcatcher on Dec 15, 2023 13:44:51 GMT
I think that there are lots of clubs on the edge at the minute. For me clubs with benefactors or people who part finance a budget because they are involved in the management for example are sooner or later going to run into trouble. Clubs have to be self sustainable via sponsorship, attendances, etc. sooner or later most benefactors or the people who subsidise a clubs budget will pull the plug and a clubs foundations will collapse because they are built on sand. My understanding is that at NSFC a large part of the budget came from the managers family. If that is true then the people providing that money can take it away at any point which seems to have been what has happened. It is a very risky way for a club to exist in my opinion. There are lots of clubs at the minute who have managers and managers families propping up budgets. All credit to them for doing up but for me it's a recipe for disaster especially in today's financial climate. Exactly this. So glad my club have always resisted this way of doing things!!
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Post by england on Dec 15, 2023 13:51:11 GMT
This is my point there finances are obviously reliant on money that was provided my the manager and his family. Every club in the league knows that over the winter there income is down due to weather. At clubs like NSFC where you have players on well over a £100 a week is doesn't take a genius to work out if somebody who is subsidising maybe 50% of your budget pulls the plug your in the shit. It shouldn’t subsidise your budget it should compliment it. So budget might be £500 per week, if manager wants to double that, it’s up to him. But you wouldn’t have to put a statement out as you are still sticking to your £500 per week agreement.
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Post by windy1970 on Dec 15, 2023 14:40:26 GMT
Hopefully clubs in and around the league, will be looking at long term sustainability add which is the best model to follow. I’m sure most would agree with linking numerous kids, reserves & women’s teams with serious links with the 1st team. Plus the club having their own ground with a clubhouse that can bring in extra money. Other streams of revenue like a 4g pitch, that can be used /hired by the community. Developing your ground in conjunction with developing your squad and accepting there’s a limit to how far you can develop the club and be satisfied with that
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