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Post by jackthelad on Oct 11, 2023 21:48:00 GMT
Regarding Bishop's 4th goal surely it was correct to allow the goal. When the ball was played forward Deano was in an offside position but did not touch the ball or interfere with play. The linesman wrongly flagged and Boldon's defence stopped playing instead of playing to the whistle. Burlace did exceptionally well to race to the ball and beat the keeper. Therefore the goal was correctly given.
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Post by lovingnonleague on Oct 11, 2023 21:58:14 GMT
Regarding Bishop's 4th goal surely it was correct to allow the goal. When the ball was played forward Deano was in an offside position but did not touch the ball or interfere with play. The linesman wrongly flagged and Boldon's defence stopped playing instead of playing to the whistle. Burlace did exceptionally well to race to the ball and beat the keeper. Therefore the goal was correctly given. deano ran towards the ball whilst in an offside position as soon as he does that then the referee should blow his whistle. Aye. |
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Post by rodentcatcher on Oct 12, 2023 8:12:18 GMT
Regarding Bishop's 4th goal surely it was correct to allow the goal. When the ball was played forward Deano was in an offside position but did not touch the ball or interfere with play. The linesman wrongly flagged and Boldon's defence stopped playing instead of playing to the whistle. Burlace did exceptionally well to race to the ball and beat the keeper. Therefore the goal was correctly given. deano ran towards the ball whilst in an offside position as soon as he does that then the referee should blow his whistle. Aye. I don't know is it, is that the ruling? If you can confirm that is the actual law then you are correct goal should not have stood. However if that is not the law, perfectly good goal. |
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Post by bigcbeat1 on Oct 12, 2023 11:26:13 GMT
Bishop 4 Boldon 1.. few changes from the blues and a young Boldon side who played some good football . A Dean Thexton hatrick and an unusual goal from Dane Burlace .linesman flaged for an offside before the lad had touched the ball and Burlace ran though to score while all players had stopped .bit harsh. But ill take it ! Anyone wanting to see this fourth goal which shouldn't have stood the highlights are on you tube 59-60 minute mark. When your getting these wrong as a referee it's time to chuck the towel in I'm afraid. They don't come any easier than this. I'm glad for the Referees sake they weren't playing West Auckland or someone like that. Embarrassing. Absolute farcical. Wow . That is ridiculous. Needs brought in to explain that decision |
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Post by lovingnonleague on Oct 12, 2023 12:40:38 GMT
Amazingly what made me think it was offside along with everyone else in the ground was when the assistant raised his flag to indicate to the Ref that you need to blow the whistle and award Boldon a free kick for said offside offence unless the Assistant just happened to be waving to someone in the crowd on the other side. Like I say when your getting them wrong you need to take up chess or snakes and ladders or something. Get them wrong in the big games there'll be a massacre.
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Post by lovingnonleague on Oct 12, 2023 12:42:10 GMT
Anyone wanting to see this fourth goal which shouldn't have stood the highlights are on you tube 59-60 minute mark. When your getting these wrong as a referee it's time to chuck the towel in I'm afraid. They don't come any easier than this. I'm glad for the Referees sake they weren't playing West Auckland or someone like that. Embarrassing. Absolute farcical. Wow . That is ridiculous. Needs brought in to explain that decision The giveaway is the assistant raising his flag. If it wasn't the rule the assistant would have kept his flag down. |
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Post by rodentcatcher on Oct 12, 2023 12:57:15 GMT
Wow . That is ridiculous. Needs brought in to explain that decision The giveaway is the assistant raising his flag. If it wasn't the rule the assistant would have kept his flag down. Not at all. The assistant could perhaps of made the misjudgment and the referee realised this. Again who know, I don't. Do we know the actual rule or not? However all that said on this occasion I think regardless whether the lino got it correct or wrong the ref should have stopped the game as everyone apart from Burlace had quite obviously stopped still.....or should he of? Would this not set a precedent  |
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Post by Neil on Oct 12, 2023 13:11:17 GMT
www.thefa.com/football-rules-governance/lawsandrules/laws/football-11-11/law-11---offside2. Offside offence A player in an offside position at the moment the ball is played or touched* by a team-mate is only penalised on becoming involved in active play by: interfering with play by playing or touching a ball passed or touched by a team-mate or interfering with an opponent by: preventing an opponent from playing or being able to play the ball by clearly obstructing the opponent’s line of vision or challenging an opponent for the ball or clearly attempting to play a ball which is close when this action impacts on an opponent or making an obvious action which clearly impacts on the ability of an opponent to play the ball *The first point of contact of the 'play' or 'touch' of the ball should be used or gaining an advantage by playing the ball or interfering with an opponent when it has: rebounded or been deflected off the goalpost, crossbar or an opponent been deliberately saved by any opponent A player in an offside position receiving the ball from an opponent who deliberately played* the ball, including by deliberate handball, is not considered to have gained an advantage, unless it was a deliberate save by any opponent.
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Post by varsoar on Oct 12, 2023 13:50:08 GMT
My read was that the linesman simply raised his flag too early the moment he saw Thexton move towards the ball. The scorer wasn't offside hence why the ref overruled and allowed the goal.
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Goal shouldn't have stood as Deano was clearly interfering with play as that's where the keepers attention was. Had shades of that daft United v City game last season where the ref managed to balls it up. As for whether or not Dean was interfering with play I'm with Clough "If a player is not interfering with play then he shouldn't be on the pitch".
Offside rule has been made overcomplicated. I'm obviously an old git as I'd love to see it go back to being as simple as it used to be back when it was ten pence a pint (goes back to pipe and slippers and knocks off this interwebby thing)
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Post by lovingnonleague on Oct 12, 2023 13:50:39 GMT
The giveaway is the assistant raising his flag. If it wasn't the rule the assistant would have kept his flag down. Not at all. The assistant could perhaps of made the misjudgment and the referee realised this. Again who know, I don't. Do we know the actual rule or not? However all that said on this occasion I think regardless whether the lino got it correct or wrong the ref should have stopped the game as everyone apart from Burlace had quite obviously stopped still.....or should he of? Would this not set a precedent Example. Tight call on the touchline assistant in a far better place to see the ball than the ref is. Assistant raises his flag he's seen that the ball is out ref is oblivious as like I say the assistant sees it much better. When the assistant raises his flag to indicate ball is out of play by the way I'm not contacting archimedes or Sir Isaac Newton to help here what course of action would the Ref take next. 1 Start doing a crossword 2 Blow his whistle as assistant has indicated the ball is out of play. 3 Go for a cupper. |
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Post by varsoar on Oct 12, 2023 13:51:10 GMT
I should point out I haven't seen the Youtube video to analyse it - it's just my take at the match!
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Post by lovingnonleague on Oct 12, 2023 15:03:03 GMT
I should point out I haven't seen the Youtube video to analyse it - it's just my take at the match! Thumbs up. It just looked such a basic decision to get so badly wrong. Anyway mate I think I've kicked the arse out of this now so I will leave it be. Onwards and upwards to the next match. |
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Post by bigcbeat1 on Oct 12, 2023 16:51:14 GMT
Offside . As the ball was played to the player in an offside position which you can clearly see. Ref got this totally wrong . Every Boldon player stopped once flag went up. Embarrassing
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