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Post by handifan on Sept 12, 2023 22:15:20 GMT
Like I said, if it’s safe enough it’s good enough, and that includes for every person attending.
It appears ground grading can’t even get disabled access right.
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Post by handifan on Sept 12, 2023 22:28:54 GMT
Handifan Ground Grading, sets minimum standards, Darlington knew they needed a minimum of 500 seats at the start of that season, to be eligible for promotion, quite rightly they were denied entry into the play off's, emphasized with their attendances and away support in the National League. Crowd segregation needed with some visiting teams, look at how ill-prepared Spennymoor Town have been in the past with the visit of Darlington, DIY temporary fencing to hold in Darlington supporters whom attended in mass. Certainly at step 1 and 2 clubs have the potential to become football league sides and thus must have the infrastructure in place. Not sure how Marske are allowed to play at step 3 (sorry) such a tight compact ground, restricted small stands, limited parking in the area, they have no scope to expand, residents housing along one side, in effect close to a three sided ground, thus limitations and could not be promoted to step 2 as at present. Ground grading reinforces spectator safety and helps provide a match day experience, encouraging the old and those with medical issues to attend games with the knowledge of seating been available to them. Luton Town, like Bournemouth previously spent a fortune on their grounds to play in the premiership, the right to do. Do you not see how ridiculous that statement is….quite rightly they were denied promotion because they didn’t have enough seats….then you go on to list a load of reasons totally unconnected to the number of seats in the ground as justification for them being denied. Ground grading is a joke. It’s invented by clubs at the top (of whatever level) to preserve their place at that level. Same as FFP, 4 (and soon to be 5) places in champions league, group stages in knockout competitions, football league wage caps, limited relegations and promotions t certain levels etc etc….they’re all the same old rules designed to preserve the status quo between the haves and the have nots. All of that is counterproductive to excellence on the pitch. It all needs to be scrapped and let clubs compete, encourage and embrace risk, make the sport genuinely competitive. To understand the problems with ground grading you need to look at the bigger picture. Football is moving towards stratification to ensure bigger profits, guaranteed income, safer status at whatever level…all against the principles of truly competitive sporting competition. |
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Post by kingsway12 on Sept 12, 2023 23:04:47 GMT
Handifan
I can't understand the point or points your trying to make, after the Taylor report, legislation was brought in to make football grounds safer, the FA stipulate ground grading for steps 1-6, with the National Playing System.
You carefully go off track and allude to ''stratification to ensure bigger profits'' thus an increased foot-fall to games is one obvious avenue to generate, but the match day experience for repeat visits especially form families, the old and disabled, clubs need the infrastructure in place, clubs will have their die-hard fans but to optimize potential income, grounds have to be more assessable, family area's, ground grading is essential.
You talk of the bigger picture, football in my opinion is nothing without the fans, the hardworking committee men and passionate followers people like yourself.
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Post by interpolv2 on Sept 13, 2023 0:07:13 GMT
The disabled facilities at most Northern League clubs are minor to non existent and something the league should be ashamed of. At least Billingham Town has a bus shelter but most grounds have nothing (Not endorsing a bus shelter is good enough either by the way). I’ve seen new stands at some grounds higher up the pyramid that include a disabled section... something all clubs should aspire to... yes, i know they’re not cheap but this is the 21st century!
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Post by hoopy on Sept 13, 2023 6:10:22 GMT
agree not many northern league grounds have even a disabled toilet I’ve also seen quite a few, worth praising those as well. I know we're no longer a Northern League team, but Ashington had one of the best grounds for disabled spectators in the league. Generally, grounds built within the past 10 years or so should be DDA compliant, it's just the older grounds that tend to be lacking. |
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Post by sikirk on Sept 13, 2023 7:12:29 GMT
I’ve also seen quite a few, worth praising those as well. I know we're no longer a Northern League team, but Ashington had one of the best grounds for disabled spectators in the league. Generally, grounds built within the past 10 years or so should be DDA compliant, it's just the older grounds that tend to be lacking. Same with buildings. Some of these old grounds its very difficult to in-corporate disabled facilities, i know a new stand will be more disable friendly but its the issue of the disabled getting to the stand thats the issue |
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