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Post by windy1970 on Jun 15, 2024 7:22:03 GMT
Well I'm sure Kendal are disappointed but the decision's been made now, lets give them a warm welcome to the North East. I've not been to Kendal Town FC so I'm looking forward to visiting although perhaps not on a wintery midweek in January! visited kendal a few years back in a fa cup game .canny clubhouse. Good set of supporters. Great day out You can get some Kendal mint cake as well😋
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Post by windy1970 on Jun 15, 2024 7:35:42 GMT
Pickering was a odd one, surely there northern league travel was the same as the northern counties east league That’s a very valid point. Can’t have been much in it. They may one day be laterally transferred back to the NL. They would be top of any list of potential clubs that could be moved. Other than them the last remaining Cumbrian club in the NWCL is Holker Old Boys and in the NCEL there’s Knaresborough Town. The biggest issue is that the NWCL Prem has 24 clubs and the FALC have already mentioned that it’s too big. If Holker Old Boys are promoted next season, then they could potentially be placed in the NL1 because of the issues surrounding why the NWCL Prem has too many clubs.(The NPL1W is basically the NWCL super league and could relegate 4 clubs that could end up in the NWCL Prem. The NWCL1N only has 2 clubs that wouldn’t be promoted into the NWCL Prem. Half the clubs in the NWCL1S could be promoted into the NWCL Prem).
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Post by 2009vasewinner on Jun 15, 2024 9:12:59 GMT
in 10 years town there will be20 teams promoted out the northern league cannot see many getting relegated back so the northern league as well as cumbria could stretch as far south as the M 62 so in theory the travelin the northern league could end up more than the unibond 1 east.
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Post by minty on Jun 15, 2024 10:15:33 GMT
Hi, Kendal Town fan here.
A lot of valid points have been made on this thread. In my opinion, a brief summary:
Distances. While we had no local derbies as such in the NWCL (our shortest trip was probably to Longridge Town, a few miles east of Preston), we will have a significantly higher average trip in NL1. Our club has estimated an extra £10k will be required to cover the travelling costs over the season. To give you an idea, our longest trip will be to Blyth Town, a round trip of 230 miles (4 hours 22 minutes according to the RAC website). Our 4 ‘local derbies’ will be Penrith (round trip 65 miles), Carlisle City (97 miles), West Auckland (118 miles) and Shildon (124 miles). I hope the Fixtures Secretary will be kind to us for midweek games!
Altitude. Distance is an issue, but altitude is more relevant when approaching from the north and east in bad weather. Even a journey from Penrith to Kendal can have it’s own perils. I could go into more detail but, in good weather you will see some great scenery on your journey, however in poor weather the only straightforward approach into Kendal is from the south at junction 36 of the M6.
Players. Dfc astutely suggests that our squad could be based south of Kendal. We have some home grown players but our manager and his assistant (top blokes by the way) live in Lancaster and a number of the players also live around that area. There are a few exceptions. The management team have committed themselves to the club this season, and I understand most of the players will follow suit. That is fantastic news for the club and the fans.
Ground/facilities. We have an old fashioned ground (in a good way) described by many as quaint or quirky. There is limited parking but a large clubhouse. We have many dedicated volunteers and provide a well stocked bar and good quality pies, burgers, chips etc. Many fans in the NWCL listed Kendal as one of their best away days, along with their trip to FC Isle of Man.
The Kendal Town revival. The club went through the doldrums in the years immediately before the pandemic with crowds of around 100-120, but a great new Chairman took over more than 3 years ago and was joined by many of the Committee from the heydays of the noughties where we played 2 levels higher (and always enjoyed a trip to Whitby!) Our average home attendance last season was around 440, slightly inflated by a full house of 1300 against Bury, but we typically attract around 400 for Saturday games. We normally have a hard core of 40-50 travelling to away games. We are a very friendly family based club.
The move from NWCL to NL1. We are obviously disappointed at being displaced and will miss a lot of friends from the NWCL, but this is a new adventure and I’m sure we will gain many new friendships. Personally, I have always found people from the north-east to be very friendly and with a great sense of humour.
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Post by Neil on Jun 15, 2024 12:30:22 GMT
Hi, Kendal Town fan here. A lot of valid points have been made on this thread. In my opinion, a brief summary: Distances. While we had no local derbies as such in the NWCL (our shortest trip was probably to Longridge Town, a few miles east of Preston), we will have a significantly higher average trip in NL1. Our club has estimated an extra £10k will be required to cover the travelling costs over the season. To give you an idea, our longest trip will be to Blyth Town, a round trip of 230 miles (4 hours 22 minutes according to the RAC website). Our 4 ‘local derbies’ will be Penrith (round trip 65 miles), Carlisle City (97 miles), West Auckland (118 miles) and Shildon (124 miles). I hope the Fixtures Secretary will be kind to us for midweek games! Altitude. Distance is an issue, but altitude is more relevant when approaching from the north and east in bad weather. Even a journey from Penrith to Kendal can have it’s own perils. I could go into more detail but, in good weather you will see some great scenery on your journey, however in poor weather the only straightforward approach into Kendal is from the south at junction 36 of the M6. Players. Dfc astutely suggests that our squad could be based south of Kendal. We have some home grown players but our manager and his assistant (top blokes by the way) live in Lancaster and a number of the players also live around that area. There are a few exceptions. The management team have committed themselves to the club this season, and I understand most of the players will follow suit. That is fantastic news for the club and the fans. Ground/facilities. We have an old fashioned ground (in a good way) described by many as quaint or quirky. There is limited parking but a large clubhouse. We have many dedicated volunteers and provide a well stocked bar and good quality pies, burgers, chips etc. Many fans in the NWCL listed Kendal as one of their best away days, along with their trip to FC Isle of Man. The Kendal Town revival. The club went through the doldrums in the years immediately before the pandemic with crowds of around 100-120, but a great new Chairman took over more than 3 years ago and was joined by many of the Committee from the heydays of the noughties where we played 2 levels higher (and always enjoyed a trip to Whitby!) Our average home attendance last season was around 440, slightly inflated by a full house of 1300 against Bury, but we typically attract around 400 for Saturday games. We normally have a hard core of 40-50 travelling to away games. We are a very friendly family based club. The move from NWCL to NL1. We are obviously disappointed at being displaced and will miss a lot of friends from the NWCL, but this is a new adventure and I’m sure we will gain many new friendships. Personally, I have always found people from the north-east to be very friendly and with a great sense of humour. That level of travelling is terrible for this level. As usual the FA don't seem to have a clue about nonleague clubs and especially at these steps in the pyramid. Regardless, hope you enjoy your stint in the Northern League however long or short it is and you're made to feel welcome.
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Post by sikirk on Jun 15, 2024 12:37:39 GMT
Hi, Kendal Town fan here. A lot of valid points have been made on this thread. In my opinion, a brief summary: Distances. While we had no local derbies as such in the NWCL (our shortest trip was probably to Longridge Town, a few miles east of Preston), we will have a significantly higher average trip in NL1. Our club has estimated an extra £10k will be required to cover the travelling costs over the season. To give you an idea, our longest trip will be to Blyth Town, a round trip of 230 miles (4 hours 22 minutes according to the RAC website). Our 4 ‘local derbies’ will be Penrith (round trip 65 miles), Carlisle City (97 miles), West Auckland (118 miles) and Shildon (124 miles). I hope the Fixtures Secretary will be kind to us for midweek games! Altitude. Distance is an issue, but altitude is more relevant when approaching from the north and east in bad weather. Even a journey from Penrith to Kendal can have it’s own perils. I could go into more detail but, in good weather you will see some great scenery on your journey, however in poor weather the only straightforward approach into Kendal is from the south at junction 36 of the M6. Players. Dfc astutely suggests that our squad could be based south of Kendal. We have some home grown players but our manager and his assistant (top blokes by the way) live in Lancaster and a number of the players also live around that area. There are a few exceptions. The management team have committed themselves to the club this season, and I understand most of the players will follow suit. That is fantastic news for the club and the fans. Ground/facilities. We have an old fashioned ground (in a good way) described by many as quaint or quirky. There is limited parking but a large clubhouse. We have many dedicated volunteers and provide a well stocked bar and good quality pies, burgers, chips etc. Many fans in the NWCL listed Kendal as one of their best away days, along with their trip to FC Isle of Man. The Kendal Town revival. The club went through the doldrums in the years immediately before the pandemic with crowds of around 100-120, but a great new Chairman took over more than 3 years ago and was joined by many of the Committee from the heydays of the noughties where we played 2 levels higher (and always enjoyed a trip to Whitby!) Our average home attendance last season was around 440, slightly inflated by a full house of 1300 against Bury, but we typically attract around 400 for Saturday games. We normally have a hard core of 40-50 travelling to away games. We are a very friendly family based club. The move from NWCL to NL1. We are obviously disappointed at being displaced and will miss a lot of friends from the NWCL, but this is a new adventure and I’m sure we will gain many new friendships. Personally, I have always found people from the north-east to be very friendly and with a great sense of humour. That level of travelling is terrible for this level. As usual the FA don't seem to have a clue about nonleague clubs and especially at these steps in the pyramid. Regardless, hope you enjoy your stint in the Northern League however long or short it is and you're made to feel welcome. Whilst i agree im not sure what the fa can do, clubs like kendal will always be out on a limb travel wise. The biggest mistake to me was creating 2 divisions for step 6 in the north west
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Post by sikirk on Jun 15, 2024 12:39:09 GMT
Hi, Kendal Town fan here.
A lot of valid points have been made on this thread. In my opinion, a brief summary:
Distances. While we had no local derbies as such in the NWCL (our shortest trip was probably to Longridge Town, a few miles east of Preston), we will have a significantly higher average trip in NL1. Our club has estimated an extra £10k will be required to cover the travelling costs over the season. To give you an idea, our longest trip will be to Blyth Town, a round trip of 230 miles (4 hours 22 minutes according to the RAC website). Our 4 ‘local derbies’ will be Penrith (round trip 65 miles), Carlisle City (97 miles), West Auckland (118 miles) and Shildon (124 miles). I hope the Fixtures Secretary will be kind to us for midweek games!
Altitude. Distance is an issue, but altitude is more relevant when approaching from the north and east in bad weather. Even a journey from Penrith to Kendal can have it’s own perils. I could go into more detail but, in good weather you will see some great scenery on your journey, however in poor weather the only straightforward approach into Kendal is from the south at junction 36 of the M6.
Players. Dfc astutely suggests that our squad could be based south of Kendal. We have some home grown players but our manager and his assistant (top blokes by the way) live in Lancaster and a number of the players also live around that area. There are a few exceptions. The management team have committed themselves to the club this season, and I understand most of the players will follow suit. That is fantastic news for the club and the fans.
Ground/facilities. We have an old fashioned ground (in a good way) described by many as quaint or quirky. There is limited parking but a large clubhouse. We have many dedicated volunteers and provide a well stocked bar and good quality pies, burgers, chips etc. Many fans in the NWCL listed Kendal as one of their best away days, along with their trip to FC Isle of Man.
The Kendal Town revival. The club went through the doldrums in the years immediately before the pandemic with crowds of around 100-120, but a great new Chairman took over more than 3 years ago and was joined by many of the Committee from the heydays of the noughties where we played 2 levels higher (and always enjoyed a trip to Whitby!) Our average home attendance last season was around 440, slightly inflated by a full house of 1300 against Bury, but we typically attract around 400 for Saturday games. We normally have a hard core of 40-50 travelling to away games. We are a very friendly family based club.
The move from NWCL to NL1. We are obviously disappointed at being displaced and will miss a lot of friends from the NWCL, but this is a new adventure and I’m sure we will gain many new friendships. Personally, I have always found people from the north-east to be very friendly and with a great sense of humour. Welcome to the forum mate. Im confident the north east teams will travel in good numbers to Kendal like they always have done to penrith. Alot see it as a day out and ive always enjoyed my visits to kendal
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Post by windy1970 on Jun 15, 2024 12:52:42 GMT
That level of travelling is terrible for this level. As usual the FA don't seem to have a clue about nonleague clubs and especially at these steps in the pyramid. Regardless, hope you enjoy your stint in the Northern League however long or short it is and you're made to feel welcome. Whilst i agree im not sure what the fa can do, clubs like kendal will always be out on a limb travel wise. The biggest mistake to me was creating 2 divisions for step 6 in the north west I think the FALC could’ve and should’ve gone further with the allocations. If they’d moved the 2 remaining West Yorks clubs to the NCEL1, then the remaining NWCL1N clubs and the northern NWCL1S(20 in total), then moved the West Birmingham/Black Country MFL1 to the NWCL1S. It would have almost certainly meant that the NWCL1S would have only promoted to the MFL Prem only. So that would’ve resolved part of the NWCL Prem bottleneck issues.
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Post by hoopy on Jun 15, 2024 15:52:19 GMT
Hi, Kendal Town fan here.
A lot of valid points have been made on this thread. In my opinion, a brief summary:
Distances. While we had no local derbies as such in the NWCL (our shortest trip was probably to Longridge Town, a few miles east of Preston), we will have a significantly higher average trip in NL1. Our club has estimated an extra £10k will be required to cover the travelling costs over the season. To give you an idea, our longest trip will be to Blyth Town, a round trip of 230 miles (4 hours 22 minutes according to the RAC website). Our 4 ‘local derbies’ will be Penrith (round trip 65 miles), Carlisle City (97 miles), West Auckland (118 miles) and Shildon (124 miles). I hope the Fixtures Secretary will be kind to us for midweek games!
Altitude. Distance is an issue, but altitude is more relevant when approaching from the north and east in bad weather. Even a journey from Penrith to Kendal can have it’s own perils. I could go into more detail but, in good weather you will see some great scenery on your journey, however in poor weather the only straightforward approach into Kendal is from the south at junction 36 of the M6.
Players. Dfc astutely suggests that our squad could be based south of Kendal. We have some home grown players but our manager and his assistant (top blokes by the way) live in Lancaster and a number of the players also live around that area. There are a few exceptions. The management team have committed themselves to the club this season, and I understand most of the players will follow suit. That is fantastic news for the club and the fans.
Ground/facilities. We have an old fashioned ground (in a good way) described by many as quaint or quirky. There is limited parking but a large clubhouse. We have many dedicated volunteers and provide a well stocked bar and good quality pies, burgers, chips etc. Many fans in the NWCL listed Kendal as one of their best away days, along with their trip to FC Isle of Man.
The Kendal Town revival. The club went through the doldrums in the years immediately before the pandemic with crowds of around 100-120, but a great new Chairman took over more than 3 years ago and was joined by many of the Committee from the heydays of the noughties where we played 2 levels higher (and always enjoyed a trip to Whitby!) Our average home attendance last season was around 440, slightly inflated by a full house of 1300 against Bury, but we typically attract around 400 for Saturday games. We normally have a hard core of 40-50 travelling to away games. We are a very friendly family based club.
The move from NWCL to NL1. We are obviously disappointed at being displaced and will miss a lot of friends from the NWCL, but this is a new adventure and I’m sure we will gain many new friendships. Personally, I have always found people from the north-east to be very friendly and with a great sense of humour. Thanks for the insight and welcome to the Northern League.
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Post by dfc on Jun 15, 2024 15:55:41 GMT
Hi, Kendal Town fan here. A lot of valid points have been made on this thread. In my opinion, a brief summary: Distances. While we had no local derbies as such in the NWCL (our shortest trip was probably to Longridge Town, a few miles east of Preston), we will have a significantly higher average trip in NL1. Our club has estimated an extra £10k will be required to cover the travelling costs over the season. To give you an idea, our longest trip will be to Blyth Town, a round trip of 230 miles (4 hours 22 minutes according to the RAC website). Our 4 ‘local derbies’ will be Penrith (round trip 65 miles), Carlisle City (97 miles), West Auckland (118 miles) and Shildon (124 miles). I hope the Fixtures Secretary will be kind to us for midweek games! Altitude. Distance is an issue, but altitude is more relevant when approaching from the north and east in bad weather. Even a journey from Penrith to Kendal can have it’s own perils. I could go into more detail but, in good weather you will see some great scenery on your journey, however in poor weather the only straightforward approach into Kendal is from the south at junction 36 of the M6. Players. Dfc astutely suggests that our squad could be based south of Kendal. We have some home grown players but our manager and his assistant (top blokes by the way) live in Lancaster and a number of the players also live around that area. There are a few exceptions. The management team have committed themselves to the club this season, and I understand most of the players will follow suit. That is fantastic news for the club and the fans. Ground/facilities. We have an old fashioned ground (in a good way) described by many as quaint or quirky. There is limited parking but a large clubhouse. We have many dedicated volunteers and provide a well stocked bar and good quality pies, burgers, chips etc. Many fans in the NWCL listed Kendal as one of their best away days, along with their trip to FC Isle of Man. The Kendal Town revival. The club went through the doldrums in the years immediately before the pandemic with crowds of around 100-120, but a great new Chairman took over more than 3 years ago and was joined by many of the Committee from the heydays of the noughties where we played 2 levels higher (and always enjoyed a trip to Whitby!) Our average home attendance last season was around 440, slightly inflated by a full house of 1300 against Bury, but we typically attract around 400 for Saturday games. We normally have a hard core of 40-50 travelling to away games. We are a very friendly family based club. The move from NWCL to NL1. We are obviously disappointed at being displaced and will miss a lot of friends from the NWCL, but this is a new adventure and I’m sure we will gain many new friendships. Personally, I have always found people from the north-east to be very friendly and with a great sense of humour. That level of travelling is terrible for this level. As usual the FA don't seem to have a clue about nonleague clubs and especially at these steps in the pyramid. Regardless, hope you enjoy your stint in the Northern League however long or short it is and you're made to feel welcome.
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Post by dfc on Jun 15, 2024 15:57:28 GMT
Hi, Kendal Town fan here. A lot of valid points have been made on this thread. In my opinion, a brief summary: Distances. While we had no local derbies as such in the NWCL (our shortest trip was probably to Longridge Town, a few miles east of Preston), we will have a significantly higher average trip in NL1. Our club has estimated an extra £10k will be required to cover the travelling costs over the season. To give you an idea, our longest trip will be to Blyth Town, a round trip of 230 miles (4 hours 22 minutes according to the RAC website). Our 4 ‘local derbies’ will be Penrith (round trip 65 miles), Carlisle City (97 miles), West Auckland (118 miles) and Shildon (124 miles). I hope the Fixtures Secretary will be kind to us for midweek games! Altitude. Distance is an issue, but altitude is more relevant when approaching from the north and east in bad weather. Even a journey from Penrith to Kendal can have it’s own perils. I could go into more detail but, in good weather you will see some great scenery on your journey, however in poor weather the only straightforward approach into Kendal is from the south at junction 36 of the M6. Players. Dfc astutely suggests that our squad could be based south of Kendal. We have some home grown players but our manager and his assistant (top blokes by the way) live in Lancaster and a number of the players also live around that area. There are a few exceptions. The management team have committed themselves to the club this season, and I understand most of the players will follow suit. That is fantastic news for the club and the fans. Ground/facilities. We have an old fashioned ground (in a good way) described by many as quaint or quirky. There is limited parking but a large clubhouse. We have many dedicated volunteers and provide a well stocked bar and good quality pies, burgers, chips etc. Many fans in the NWCL listed Kendal as one of their best away days, along with their trip to FC Isle of Man. The Kendal Town revival. The club went through the doldrums in the years immediately before the pandemic with crowds of around 100-120, but a great new Chairman took over more than 3 years ago and was joined by many of the Committee from the heydays of the noughties where we played 2 levels higher (and always enjoyed a trip to Whitby!) Our average home attendance last season was around 440, slightly inflated by a full house of 1300 against Bury, but we typically attract around 400 for Saturday games. We normally have a hard core of 40-50 travelling to away games. We are a very friendly family based club. The move from NWCL to NL1. We are obviously disappointed at being displaced and will miss a lot of friends from the NWCL, but this is a new adventure and I’m sure we will gain many new friendships. Personally, I have always found people from the north-east to be very friendly and with a great sense of humour. That level of travelling is terrible for this level. As usual the FA don't seem to have a clue about nonleague clubs and especially at these steps in the pyramid. Regardless, hope you enjoy your stint in the Northern League however long or short it is and you're made to feel welcome.
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Post by hoopy on Jun 15, 2024 15:58:10 GMT
Whilst i agree im not sure what the fa can do, clubs like kendal will always be out on a limb travel wise. The biggest mistake to me was creating 2 divisions for step 6 in the north west I think the FALC could’ve and should’ve gone further with the allocations. If they’d moved the 2 remaining West Yorks clubs to the NCEL1, then the remaining NWCL1N clubs and the northern NWCL1S(20 in total), then moved the West Birmingham/Black Country MFL1 to the NWCL1S. It would have almost certainly meant that the NWCL1S would have only promoted to the MFL Prem only. So that would’ve resolved part of the NWCL Prem bottleneck issues. There is going to have to be a long term strategy going forward. They need it think hard about where teams are promoted and relegated to to ensure more teams aren’t leaving than are coming into to try and resolve some of the imbalance. There will always be teams like Northallerton, Pickering and Knaresborough who might swap between leagues, but it shouldn’t have to be the case that leagues are running with 24 teams while others have 20. It should be the same numbers across the leagues with the odd team on the edge being moved if required rather than having to ask a team make a significant change.
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Post by dfc on Jun 15, 2024 16:00:42 GMT
That level of travelling is terrible for this level. As usual the FA don't seem to have a clue about nonleague clubs and especially at these steps in the pyramid. Regardless, hope you enjoy your stint in the Northern League however long or short it is and you're made to feel welcome.
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Post by JayTheSynner on Jun 16, 2024 12:08:47 GMT
Highly doubtful our paths may cross as we currently sit in the division below, only a league cup game perhaps any real chance, but I wish you all the best as do all of us at Billingham Synthonia.
Welcome to the Northern League
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