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Post by cornishpasty on Feb 21, 2024 9:39:17 GMT
Strange weather we are having, but, is it any worse than recent years or has the whole perspective around playing football in local non league changed ?
PREVIOUSLY... clubs, managers, players wouldn't think twice about playing games when there was a bit of mud, a bit of rain, in the extreme, games even went ahead on snow covered pitches with the old yellow ball. Players would play with a sore toe, broken shin pad or the wrong colored boots. There was no fingers pointed, blame apportioned, people self diagnosing complex injuries and splashing them all over social media to be "liked"
NOW.... All of the above dont, or do happen.
For me its time to realize times "have" changed and to implement a serious agenda to get games played and the season finished on time.
Lets be honest games are postponed for the least bit thing because officials, the league, FA, are terrified of blame claim culture, yet because of this players will be playing 3, 4 or 5 games a week, you tell me which is more likely, short and long term to cause injury?
So what is the answer, or would help change the way things are.
I would suggest as I mentioned in another post investment from the league, FA, sponsors, to actually get games on grass played. grants for Pitch covers, drainage, hardware, machinery, tools, to physically make it easier to look after our pitches. How about clubs perhaps being asked/made to keep lets say 20% of gate fees toward pitch/ground care, improvement.
An understanding and agreement between players/clubs, officials and the authorities how the current situation doesn't work. Maybe players signing an official waiver not to sue if they pick up an injury, that would release officials to "play" games they would previously call off. Obviously certain games in bad conditions cant go ahead no matter what but for me with something along these lines and, a structured written understanding of what is ok to go ahead and what isnt, and a relaxation of this.
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Post by rodentcatcher on Feb 21, 2024 9:42:55 GMT
Great Post.
And to answer ond of your first questions, no the weather has not been anything out of the ordinary. In fact I would say it has been a pretty decent winter, a bit wet but nowhere near as bad as people have alluded to.
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Post by malvern2 on Feb 21, 2024 9:57:59 GMT
Great Post. And to answer ond of your first questions, no the weather has not been anything out of the ordinary. In fact I would say it has been a pretty decent winter, a bit wet but nowhere near as bad as people have alluded to. According to Met Office it’s been one of the ten wettest winters since 1836. You need to get outdoors a bit more Gav. |
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Post by england on Feb 21, 2024 10:22:55 GMT
It has defo been the worst winter from a precipitation point of view that I can ever remember.
So many pitches have had standing water on them so games can’t be played.
I understand the OP regarding blame culture and times changing etc, but I really don’t think that’s been the main issue this winter.
The fact it’s been blanket across both leagues shows that.
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Post by eastdurhamhopper on Feb 21, 2024 10:28:13 GMT
It has defo been the worst winter from a precipitation point of view that I can ever remember. So many pitches have had standing water on them so games can’t be played. I understand the OP regarding blame culture and times changing etc, but I really don’t think that’s been the main issue this winter. The fact it’s been blanket across both leagues shows that. And not just the NL either |
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Post by bigcbeat1 on Feb 21, 2024 12:49:11 GMT
Great Post. And to answer ond of your first questions, no the weather has not been anything out of the ordinary. In fact I would say it has been a pretty decent winter, a bit wet but nowhere near as bad as people have alluded to. Tell you one thing you are either on a wind up or a grade 1 tit |
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Post by bigcbeat1 on Feb 21, 2024 12:50:27 GMT
Strange weather we are having, but, is it any worse than recent years or has the whole perspective around playing football in local non league changed ? PREVIOUSLY... clubs, managers, players wouldn't think twice about playing games when there was a bit of mud, a bit of rain, in the extreme, games even went ahead on snow covered pitches with the old yellow ball. Players would play with a sore toe, broken shin pad or the wrong colored boots. There was no fingers pointed, blame apportioned, people self diagnosing complex injuries and splashing them all over social media to be "liked" NOW.... All of the above dont, or do happen. For me its time to realize times "have" changed and to implement a serious agenda to get games played and the season finished on time. Lets be honest games are postponed for the least bit thing because officials, the league, FA, are terrified of blame claim culture, yet because of this players will be playing 3, 4 or 5 games a week, you tell me which is more likely, short and long term to cause injury? So what is the answer, or would help change the way things are. I would suggest as I mentioned in another post investment from the league, FA, sponsors, to actually get games on grass played. grants for Pitch covers, drainage, hardware, machinery, tools, to physically make it easier to look after our pitches. How about clubs perhaps being asked/made to keep lets say 20% of gate fees toward pitch/ground care, improvement. An understanding and agreement between players/clubs, officials and the authorities how the current situation doesn't work. Maybe players signing an official waiver not to sue if they pick up an injury, that would release officials to "play" games they would previously call off. Obviously certain games in bad conditions cant go ahead no matter what but for me with something along these lines and, a structured written understanding of what is ok to go ahead and what isnt, and a relaxation of this. Can I ask you out of curiosity are you a groundsman or not ? |
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Post by rodentcatcher on Feb 21, 2024 13:20:15 GMT
Great Post. And to answer ond of your first questions, no the weather has not been anything out of the ordinary. In fact I would say it has been a pretty decent winter, a bit wet but nowhere near as bad as people have alluded to. According to Met Office it’s been one of the ten wettest winters since 1836. You need to get outdoors a bit more Gav. Wow, and the pitch at Heritage Park has been mostly perfect - maybe our drainage is something out of the Harry Potter realms then.... |
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Post by cornishpasty on Feb 21, 2024 13:25:22 GMT
Strange weather we are having, but, is it any worse than recent years or has the whole perspective around playing football in local non league changed ? PREVIOUSLY... clubs, managers, players wouldn't think twice about playing games when there was a bit of mud, a bit of rain, in the extreme, games even went ahead on snow covered pitches with the old yellow ball. Players would play with a sore toe, broken shin pad or the wrong colored boots. There was no fingers pointed, blame apportioned, people self diagnosing complex injuries and splashing them all over social media to be "liked" NOW.... All of the above dont, or do happen. For me its time to realize times "have" changed and to implement a serious agenda to get games played and the season finished on time. Lets be honest games are postponed for the least bit thing because officials, the league, FA, are terrified of blame claim culture, yet because of this players will be playing 3, 4 or 5 games a week, you tell me which is more likely, short and long term to cause injury? So what is the answer, or would help change the way things are. I would suggest as I mentioned in another post investment from the league, FA, sponsors, to actually get games on grass played. grants for Pitch covers, drainage, hardware, machinery, tools, to physically make it easier to look after our pitches. How about clubs perhaps being asked/made to keep lets say 20% of gate fees toward pitch/ground care, improvement. An understanding and agreement between players/clubs, officials and the authorities how the current situation doesn't work. Maybe players signing an official waiver not to sue if they pick up an injury, that would release officials to "play" games they would previously call off. Obviously certain games in bad conditions cant go ahead no matter what but for me with something along these lines and, a structured written understanding of what is ok to go ahead and what isnt, and a relaxation of this. Can I ask you out of curiosity are you a groundsman or not ? No.. but what I will say is those who are do a fantastic job, and, I'm sure, more help from the FA to allow them to do their job more efficiently and easier would be a godsend.. |
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Post by lovingnonleague on Feb 21, 2024 13:29:02 GMT
Great Post. And to answer ond of your first questions, no the weather has not been anything out of the ordinary. In fact I would say it has been a pretty decent winter, a bit wet but nowhere near as bad as people have alluded to. Tell you one thing you are either on a wind up or a grade 1 tit Grade 1 Tit. Absolute whopper. |
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Post by england on Feb 21, 2024 14:00:51 GMT
According to Met Office it’s been one of the ten wettest winters since 1836. You need to get outdoors a bit more Gav. Wow, and the pitch at Heritage Park has been mostly perfect - maybe our drainage is something out of the Harry Potter realms then.... The more help the better but this winter has been unprecedented and the support needed just wouldn’t be feasible for the FA to fix all issues. This is about drainage, water removal etc |
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Post by bigcbeat1 on Feb 21, 2024 14:21:09 GMT
Can I ask you out of curiosity are you a groundsman or not ? No.. but what I will say is those who are do a fantastic job, and, I'm sure, more help from the FA to allow them to do their job more efficiently and easier would be a godsend.. All for that but we a know it won’t happen. Sooner open another cash cow soulless cage facility |
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Post by varsoar on Feb 21, 2024 14:46:55 GMT
Great Post. And to answer ond of your first questions, no the weather has not been anything out of the ordinary. In fact I would say it has been a pretty decent winter, a bit wet but nowhere near as bad as people have alluded to. Tell you one thing you are either on a wind up or a grade 1 tit Not sure it has to be either.... (sorry mouse hunter  ) |
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Post by jambon on Feb 21, 2024 17:15:09 GMT
Tell you one thing you are either on a wind up or a grade 1 tit Not sure it has to be either.... (sorry mouse hunter ) Still Bishop haven't had a home game cancelled this season fact!!!! |
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Post by cornishpasty on Feb 21, 2024 19:18:23 GMT
All for that but we a know it won’t happen. Sooner open another cash cow soulless cage facility But this is why it wont happen, everyone saying, it wont happen. If there is enough backing, enough people with a raised voice, enough people to take action it can be made to happen. The Fa get enough money from our clubs now this is a major concern and time they got off their rich lazy arses and actually did something constructive.. |
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