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Post by mut on Mar 3, 2024 23:46:19 GMT
Said that all along mate.id made no sense whatsoever.no August Bank Holiday games neither.that was just asking for trouble I think what most tend not to take into account is that normally we don’t have such long periods of constant rain. Pitches aren’t getting enough rain free days so when heavy rain comes and pitches have not had enough time to fully drain off so even if it’s just a few hours of heavy rain and the water table is high then there’s no chance. ( except for Bishops of course ). We got some unnecessary stick from Redcar for not calling the game off before 5pm . The pitch was due the inspection at 3pm but there was a delay beyond our control which lead to the late inspection. I thinks its going to end up the norm due to climate change in truth mate.id hope the league learns the lessons from this.but I won't hold my breath
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Post by j on Mar 4, 2024 7:59:57 GMT
I think what most tend not to take into account is that normally we don’t have such long periods of constant rain. Pitches aren’t getting enough rain free days so when heavy rain comes and pitches have not had enough time to fully drain off so even if it’s just a few hours of heavy rain and the water table is high then there’s no chance. ( except for Bishops of course ). We got some unnecessary stick from Redcar for not calling the game off before 5pm . The pitch was due the inspection at 3pm but there was a delay beyond our control which lead to the late inspection. I get that this season had been particularly bad for rain, but the problem of not getting enough fixtures completed while the weather is better at the start of the season is a recurring theme. Far too many empty weekend and midweek slots every year which then means a relentless schedule for everyone in the Spring. There are clubs who didn't play a midweek fixture in September this season and only one in October/ November and that's pretty standard.
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Post by bigcbeat1 on Mar 4, 2024 8:33:19 GMT
It is pal it is sunderland west ends home ground. It doesn't float my boat but it’s getting games on. If the wearside league knock the hubs on the head then they'll probably lose a few clubs. Not sure why there trying to knock the hubs on the head. I would for the wearside league Premier division but the other two divisions are pretty much park pitches anyway. Wearside have games at the hub today. They have been paying 50% of costs for teams moving to 4G pitches to get games on. Wearside league are Step 7 so all the new hubs should be compliant for that level . There is only Ford Hub that can host Step 6 as it meets the minimum requirements . Having said that Washington Hub hosted Newton Aycliffe and Horden for a DCFA challenge cup 1/4 final . So I suppose out can happen .
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Post by eastdurhamhopper on Mar 4, 2024 9:01:54 GMT
Wearside have games at the hub today. They have been paying 50% of costs for teams moving to 4G pitches to get games on. Wearside league are Step 7 so all the new hubs should be compliant for that level . There is only Ford Hub that can host Step 6 as it meets the minimum requirements . Having said that Washington Hub hosted Newton Aycliffe and Horden for a DCFA challenge cup 1/4 final . So I suppose out can happen . I think it was the one in Sunderland where that game was played, and that certainly wouldn't meet requirements. No standing, no seating and i think not even any dugouts if i remember rightly from the last time i was there.
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Post by cornishpasty on Mar 4, 2024 9:41:07 GMT
When it comes to the current situation, especially in the WL let games go ahead, wherever is playable within reason.
Some teams have over 20 games to play before the end of the season.
The leagues/FA should rise above their stubborn snobbery, and start seeing the bigger picture, ie injuries to players, player shortage giving an untrue reflection of games, people having to take time off work, etc. etc,
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Post by dusty on Mar 4, 2024 10:17:43 GMT
I think the Northern League put out on there wesbite in regards their request for an extension that fixtures are scheduled to finish 20th April, but at Step 4 fixtures are scheduled upto 27th April and have been all season. Not sure why it should be different as they bpth have palyoffs to schedule
Step 4 starts later Yes I agree but why should Step 4 be allowed to finish later when they are also subject to promotion / relegation and play offs as are Step 5/6 It doesnt make sense to me
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Post by mut on Mar 4, 2024 19:41:14 GMT
Football league ends end of May mate so could make an argument there.none of it really makes sense
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Post by j on Mar 5, 2024 12:56:53 GMT
In NL1, there is one team with 15 league games outstanding, 2 with 14 and the rest with between 13 and 9 to complete in 9 weeks. Shouldn't be an issue if the weather improves.
More difficult in NL2 which is partly due to allowing the league to run with 22 teams. 20 should be max and any suggestion of increasing it to 24 needs to be shot down asap.
Should be doable in 7/8 weeks without anyone having to play there times a week assuming the weather improves, but as ever the risk could've been mitigated by scheduling more fixtures at the start of the season.
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Post by mut on Mar 5, 2024 17:49:53 GMT
In NL1, there is one team with 15 league games outstanding, 2 with 14 and the rest with between 13 and 9 to complete in 9 weeks. Shouldn't be an issue if the weather improves. More difficult in NL2 which is partly due to allowing the league to run with 22 teams. 20 should be max and any suggestion of increasing it to 24 needs to be shot down asap. Should be doable in 7/8 weeks without anyone having to play there times a week assuming the weather improves, but as ever the risk could've been mitigated by scheduling more fixtures at the start of the season. Still not an excuse really mate.nwcl is 24 team 46 games season and they ain't having same issues really.the reason being they played midweek early on quite simple
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Post by sikirk on Mar 5, 2024 19:25:15 GMT
In NL1, there is one team with 15 league games outstanding, 2 with 14 and the rest with between 13 and 9 to complete in 9 weeks. Shouldn't be an issue if the weather improves. More difficult in NL2 which is partly due to allowing the league to run with 22 teams. 20 should be max and any suggestion of increasing it to 24 needs to be shot down asap. Should be doable in 7/8 weeks without anyone having to play there times a week assuming the weather improves, but as ever the risk could've been mitigated by scheduling more fixtures at the start of the season. I get what you saying but can the league really avoid increasing to 24 clubs in division 2, there seems reluctance to relegate more than 1 club and probs reluctance to transfer clubs out to avoid clubs kicking off. Is the reluctance down to the fa or league, my moneys on the fa
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Post by windy1970 on Mar 5, 2024 20:34:56 GMT
In NL1, there is one team with 15 league games outstanding, 2 with 14 and the rest with between 13 and 9 to complete in 9 weeks. Shouldn't be an issue if the weather improves. More difficult in NL2 which is partly due to allowing the league to run with 22 teams. 20 should be max and any suggestion of increasing it to 24 needs to be shot down asap. Should be doable in 7/8 weeks without anyone having to play there times a week assuming the weather improves, but as ever the risk could've been mitigated by scheduling more fixtures at the start of the season. I get what you saying but can the league really avoid increasing to 24 clubs in division 2, there seems reluctance to relegate more than 1 club and probs reluctance to transfer clubs out to avoid clubs kicking off. Is the reluctance down to the fa or league, my moneys on the fa There’s not a reluctance of either the NL or the FA. The FA league committee that decides promotion, relegation, demotion and lateral transfer issues. Follow the FA rules and regulations. If they don’t, then they’d lose any potential appeals. Unfortunately the NL footprint is isolated and whether the division sizes expand or retract in quantity, there’s limited scope for lateral movements. As discussed on a few previous threads, the number of clubs capable of being laterally transferred into the league or out of the league are tiny. Compared with a league like the Spartans South Midlands, where they literally could move half the league into a neighbouring league and it wouldn’t make much difference.
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Post by sikirk on Mar 5, 2024 20:51:14 GMT
I get what you saying but can the league really avoid increasing to 24 clubs in division 2, there seems reluctance to relegate more than 1 club and probs reluctance to transfer clubs out to avoid clubs kicking off. Is the reluctance down to the fa or league, my moneys on the fa There’s not a reluctance of either the NL or the FA. The FA league committee that decides promotion, relegation, demotion and lateral transfer issues. Follow the FA rules and regulations. If they don’t, then they’d lose any potential appeals. Unfortunately the NL footprint is isolated and whether the division sizes expand or retract in quantity, there’s limited scope for lateral movements. As discussed on a few previous threads, the number of clubs capable of being laterally transferred into the league or out of the league are tiny. Compared with a league like the Spartans South Midlands, where they literally could move half the league into a neighbouring league and it wouldn’t make much difference. Fair points windy but surely something has to be done to cap divisions sizes, 24 is too many eapecially with the way the weather has been lately
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Post by j on Mar 5, 2024 21:42:07 GMT
In NL1, there is one team with 15 league games outstanding, 2 with 14 and the rest with between 13 and 9 to complete in 9 weeks. Shouldn't be an issue if the weather improves. More difficult in NL2 which is partly due to allowing the league to run with 22 teams. 20 should be max and any suggestion of increasing it to 24 needs to be shot down asap. Should be doable in 7/8 weeks without anyone having to play there times a week assuming the weather improves, but as ever the risk could've been mitigated by scheduling more fixtures at the start of the season. Still not an excuse really mate.nwcl is 24 team 46 games season and they ain't having same issues really.the reason being they played midweek early on quite simple Totally agree. It's ridiculous that we always have so many blank dates at the start of the season, same every year.
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Post by england on Mar 5, 2024 23:14:02 GMT
There’s not a reluctance of either the NL or the FA. The FA league committee that decides promotion, relegation, demotion and lateral transfer issues. Follow the FA rules and regulations. If they don’t, then they’d lose any potential appeals. Unfortunately the NL footprint is isolated and whether the division sizes expand or retract in quantity, there’s limited scope for lateral movements. As discussed on a few previous threads, the number of clubs capable of being laterally transferred into the league or out of the league are tiny. Compared with a league like the Spartans South Midlands, where they literally could move half the league into a neighbouring league and it wouldn’t make much difference. Fair points windy but surely something has to be done to cap divisions sizes, 24 is too many eapecially with the way the weather has been lately Yeah probably does need to be reduced, but to do that would mean transferring someone like Redcar out, which would be very difficult on them. No perfect solution
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Post by bigcbeat1 on Mar 7, 2024 11:24:44 GMT
Boldon are right up against it now with last nights postponement at Esh Winning . 17 games to cram in . Even with a week extension it’s one hell of a lot to cram in . Jarrow 16 , Washy and Brandon with 15. Surely the FA have to extend by more than 7 days. I would imagine quite a few players play for Sunday teams also. In affect some players could be faced with 7 games in a week 🙈
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