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Post by cornishpasty on Jan 30, 2024 11:38:34 GMT
I suppose it depends what you think is big money, my pal is on the committee of a Wearside club and one of their players was offered £80 a game from a NL 1 club, so going off that I'd say there is still "big" money being paid out. £80 a week seems reasonable but not silly, some clubs were paying more than that in the last decade. A lad i worked with about ten year ago got £70 a week in division one back then Yeah sorry I forgot to mention the kid was 16, so my point is a club offering that to a player with no experience at this level, imagine what the other players are on. I know for a fact lads who are on 2-3 hundred a week, as the post above mentioned mortgagees and bills can be paid with this. (I agree by the way great to hear from a player whos been there and done it)
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Post by muttt on Jan 30, 2024 11:57:51 GMT
Manchester United!
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Post by Neil on Jan 30, 2024 12:41:21 GMT
Whatever you think about wages in the Northern League, one thing I've learnt is to always take it with a pinch of salt when a player tells you what they've been offered elsewhere or what they're getting paid.
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Post by sikirk on Jan 30, 2024 13:14:16 GMT
Whatever you think about wages in the Northern League, one thing I've learnt is to always take it with a pinch of salt when a player tells you what they've been offered elsewhere or what they're getting paid. Yeah i agree, you hear daft figures been banded about and often seems un-believable
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Post by sikirk on Jan 30, 2024 13:15:33 GMT
£80 a week seems reasonable but not silly, some clubs were paying more than that in the last decade. A lad i worked with about ten year ago got £70 a week in division one back then Yeah sorry I forgot to mention the kid was 16, so my point is a club offering that to a player with no experience at this level, imagine what the other players are on. I know for a fact lads who are on 2-3 hundred a week, as the post above mentioned mortgagees and bills can be paid with this. (I agree by the way great to hear from a player whos been there and done it) Are players still getting 2-300 a week in the league these days? Would think those paying that will have been promoted now
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Post by england on Jan 30, 2024 13:25:40 GMT
Great post. Having played in the Northern League for years up until fairly recently, I'll give my 2 penneth. Based purely on Geography I think clubs like Tow Law, Esh etc. would struggle - clubs like Birtley (as Big C has already mentioned they're already very good at this), Benfield, RCA and Heaton Stan would do well. Based on history and stature of the club, Bishops, the Bay and Shildon. I can't speak for the skillset or the pull of the managers in the league but their is some obvious big names in there with quite a pull - look at Redcar etc. I don't think facilities would be all that big a factor in honesty, unless you're at the very bottom end of the scale and even then that's extreme. There is still clubs paying "big" money in both divisions - from a players perspective it can be lucrative, you can easily pay your mortgage each month by playing football in the Northern League. It's often the view the players are greedy - 99% are working lads in a tough financial climate where getting paid to play football is a no brainer and the more you can get paid for playing the better. Don’t blame players for taking it, but I blame clubs for giving them it, then pleading poverty further down the line.
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Post by england on Jan 30, 2024 13:26:57 GMT
Great post. Having played in the Northern League for years up until fairly recently, I'll give my 2 penneth. Based purely on Geography I think clubs like Tow Law, Esh etc. would struggle - clubs like Birtley (as Big C has already mentioned they're already very good at this), Benfield, RCA and Heaton Stan would do well. Based on history and stature of the club, Bishops, the Bay and Shildon. I can't speak for the skillset or the pull of the managers in the league but their is some obvious big names in there with quite a pull - look at Redcar etc. I don't think facilities would be all that big a factor in honesty, unless you're at the very bottom end of the scale and even then that's extreme. There is still clubs paying "big" money in both divisions - from a players perspective it can be lucrative, you can easily pay your mortgage each month by playing football in the Northern League. It's often the view the players are greedy - 99% are working lads in a tough financial climate where getting paid to play football is a no brainer and the more you can get paid for playing the better. Good to hear a players view and i wonder if in the near future as clubs who actually pay a wage will be in the northern premier meaning meaning players will need to move up a level if they want to earn more, been like this elsewhere in the country for several years Think that’s happening now to be honest. It then gives a few clubs the opportunity to be a big fish and splash out some money with the lure of less travel, Redcar as an example
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Post by england on Jan 30, 2024 13:28:06 GMT
£80 a week seems reasonable but not silly, some clubs were paying more than that in the last decade. A lad i worked with about ten year ago got £70 a week in division one back then Yeah sorry I forgot to mention the kid was 16, so my point is a club offering that to a player with no experience at this level, imagine what the other players are on. I know for a fact lads who are on 2-3 hundred a week, as the post above mentioned mortgagees and bills can be paid with this. (I agree by the way great to hear from a player whos been there and done it) 2-300 a week is a canny bit more than a mortgage, it’s getting on to being full time!!
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Post by eastdurhamhopper on Jan 30, 2024 13:28:12 GMT
Yeah sorry I forgot to mention the kid was 16, so my point is a club offering that to a player with no experience at this level, imagine what the other players are on. I know for a fact lads who are on 2-3 hundred a week, as the post above mentioned mortgagees and bills can be paid with this. (I agree by the way great to hear from a player whos been there and done it) Are players still getting 2-300 a week in the league these days? Would think those paying that will have been promoted now I would imagine some of the new Redcar signings will be on that amount. And maybe a handful of others throughout the league. As as been mentioned though, You have to take what players tell you they are on with a large pinch of salt.
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Post by brutus on Jan 30, 2024 13:31:59 GMT
Whatever you think about wages in the Northern League, one thing I've learnt is to always take it with a pinch of salt when a player tells you what they've been offered elsewhere or what they're getting paid. Correct, it's a subject surrounded by myth, exaggeration and rumour. Even team mates don't always know each others exact pay rate. What about the other side of the coin, players playing without being paid? There used to be some teams that didn't directly pay a match rate but I'm not sure these days.
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Post by bigcbeat1 on Jan 30, 2024 15:21:58 GMT
Great post. Having played in the Northern League for years up until fairly recently, I'll give my 2 penneth. Based purely on Geography I think clubs like Tow Law, Esh etc. would struggle - clubs like Birtley (as Big C has already mentioned they're already very good at this), Benfield, RCA and Heaton Stan would do well. Based on history and stature of the club, Bishops, the Bay and Shildon. I can't speak for the skillset or the pull of the managers in the league but their is some obvious big names in there with quite a pull - look at Redcar etc. I don't think facilities would be all that big a factor in honesty, unless you're at the very bottom end of the scale and even then that's extreme. There is still clubs paying "big" money in both divisions - from a players perspective it can be lucrative, you can easily pay your mortgage each month by playing football in the Northern League. It's often the view the players are greedy - 99% are working lads in a tough financial climate where getting paid to play football is a no brainer and the more you can get paid for playing the better.
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Post by bigcbeat1 on Jan 30, 2024 15:37:41 GMT
Great post. Having played in the Northern League for years up until fairly recently, I'll give my 2 penneth. Based purely on Geography I think clubs like Tow Law, Esh etc. would struggle - clubs like Birtley (as Big C has already mentioned they're already very good at this), Benfield, RCA and Heaton Stan would do well. Based on history and stature of the club, Bishops, the Bay and Shildon. I can't speak for the skillset or the pull of the managers in the league but their is some obvious big names in there with quite a pull - look at Redcar etc. I don't think facilities would be all that big a factor in honesty, unless you're at the very bottom end of the scale and even then that's extreme. There is still clubs paying "big" money in both divisions - from a players perspective it can be lucrative, you can easily pay your mortgage each month by playing football in the Northern League. It's often the view the players are greedy - 99% are working lads in a tough financial climate where getting paid to play football is a no brainer and the more you can get paid for playing the better. It’s when you hear of the silliness of some moves that the subject of money becomes strange in some cases. This example is true. While this player was at Ashington , he had 3 clubs interested. Dunston , Bishop, and Marske . He called me as to where he should go . Marske were offering £15.00 a week more . I said no brainer he should go to Dunston with him living in Bedlington which he said that’s what al do. When he told Marske then offered another £5.00 per week so he signed for Marske. . When he told me and I asked him why , he said it’s 20 quid a week more which as it turns out was for expenses to drive himself there. He must have been better of going to either of the other 2 He actually thought he’d pulled a blinder.
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Post by bigcbeat1 on Jan 30, 2024 15:58:58 GMT
On the pulling power of management I don’t think we could do better than those we have now Paul Foster, Paul Bryson, Robin Falcus. Reece and Mordey making up the team as coach and Keeper coach.
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Post by thejigsaw on Jan 30, 2024 16:05:45 GMT
There is still players in the league(s) on £200-300, however, from my experience they are few and far between and tend to be 1 or 2 at these few clubs. £100-150 is fairly common across Div.1. Up to £100 is about the top end for Div.2. As always, there'll be exceptions to this and no some clubs paying way less than this.
I never understand when players get transfers from (for example) Bedlington to Billingham - there has to be money involved in the decision making somewhere along the line.
I know there are a few teams that don't pay all of their players, and some clubs still operate a kitty-type system - £x for a win, £y for a draw, all paid at end of season if you're still there.
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Post by cornishpasty on Jan 30, 2024 19:39:23 GMT
Yeah sorry I forgot to mention the kid was 16, so my point is a club offering that to a player with no experience at this level, imagine what the other players are on. I know for a fact lads who are on 2-3 hundred a week, as the post above mentioned mortgagees and bills can be paid with this. (I agree by the way great to hear from a player whos been there and done it) Are players still getting 2-300 a week in the league these days? Would think those paying that will have been promoted now Yip..
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