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Post by mut on Dec 10, 2023 16:40:16 GMT
Absolutely windy.madness
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Post by england on Dec 10, 2023 17:00:30 GMT
Unfortunately it’s the need for the league to have a perfect pyramid, so it’s a numbers game to them.
They just love teams who are closed geographically to even up numbers. Pickering being an example.
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Post by windy1970 on Dec 10, 2023 17:58:59 GMT
Unfortunately it’s the need for the league to have a perfect pyramid, so it’s a numbers game to them. They just love teams who are closed geographically to even up numbers. Pickering being an example. At least you can give a decent argument about Pickering being in either the NL or NCEL. It’s not exactly a million miles south of the Middlesbrough area. The road network to Pickering is pretty awful and they have to play in some league across the pyramid. Louth are in a similar position in the NCEL1 and could easily play in the UCL1 & aren’t close to any other clubs. But Penrith have been a member of the NL for years and personally I believe all the Cumbrian clubs should be in the same league and that’s the NWCL.
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Post by england on Dec 10, 2023 18:07:37 GMT
Unfortunately it’s the need for the league to have a perfect pyramid, so it’s a numbers game to them. They just love teams who are closed geographically to even up numbers. Pickering being an example. At least you can give a decent argument about Pickering being in either the NL or NCEL. It’s not exactly a million miles south of the Middlesbrough area. The road network to Pickering is pretty awful and they have to play in some league across the pyramid. Louth are in a similar position in the NCEL1 and could easily play in the UCL1 & aren’t close to any other clubs. But Penrith have been a member of the NL for years and personally I believe all the Cumbrian clubs should be in the same league and that’s the NWCL. It doesn’t really matter what argument you think is right, at the moment the team with the closest location would end up moving leagues. That’s the issue with end of season and not knowing what leagues are people in etc
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Post by sikirk on Dec 10, 2023 19:07:57 GMT
Would penriths travel in the nwcl not be about the same as the northern league? They have been in the league for years now dont think they have asked for a transfer. Bar kendal in the nwcl they would be heading down blackpool, bolton way. Anyhow even if they wanted to go to nwcl thats got 24 clubs in which is barmy at that level
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Post by england on Dec 10, 2023 19:37:20 GMT
Would penriths travel in the nwcl not be about the same as the northern league? They have been in the league for years now dont think they have asked for a transfer. Bar kendal in the nwcl they would be heading down blackpool, bolton way. Anyhow even if they wanted to go to nwcl thats got 24 clubs in which is barmy at that level Yeah I think it would, although I think the M6, makes the north/south travel a little easier. End of days for these clubs they are relatively isolated so always going to be a few pain points.
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Post by pooliehopper on Dec 10, 2023 21:33:27 GMT
I remember a few years ago during one of the big restructures a lot of the projection followers thinking the NL would get Knaresborough over Carlisle.
If you look at a road map, it's a bit easier getting to Carlisle from Tynside/North Durham than it is getting to Knaresborough.
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Post by mut on Dec 10, 2023 22:30:29 GMT
However carlisle to pickering was just stupidity.
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Post by windy1970 on Dec 11, 2023 5:05:18 GMT
I remember a few years ago during one of the big restructures a lot of the projection followers thinking the NL would get Knaresborough over Carlisle. If you look at a road map, it's a bit easier getting to Carlisle from Tynside/North Durham than it is getting to Knaresborough. I agree with this, but I also agree that the Cumbrian clubs should all be in the same league. As for the restructure, the FA has held meetings with groups of 3 step 5 leagues at a time and listened to their concerns about the current pyramid/issues. I believe leagues want more consultations in regards to lateral movement and also want more autonomy. I’m not sure what the FA are going to agree with
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Post by pooliehopper on Dec 11, 2023 9:38:53 GMT
If we got Knaresborough we'd probably end up with Harrogate RA as well and maybe Ilkley. I think a lot of the NL purists would be a bit pissed at the league going south like that.
I'd much prefer them over the likes of Carlisle, and worse the hypothetical moves of Kendal and Holker Old Boys (those would be nightmare trips).
Oddly enough at step 4 I've seen some suggestions of adding Colne and Clitheroe to the NPL East. Would be much easier for clubs like Aycliffe, Dunston and Consett to get there than say Grantham or Belper.
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Post by gabilonia on Dec 11, 2023 15:05:27 GMT
If we got Knaresborough we'd probably end up with Harrogate RA as well and maybe Ilkley. I think a lot of the NL purists would be a bit pissed at the league going south like that. I'd much prefer them over the likes of Carlisle, and worse the hypothetical moves of Kendal and Holker Old Boys (those would be nightmare trips). Oddly enough at step 4 I've seen some suggestions of adding Colne and Clitheroe to the NPL East. Would be much easier for clubs like Aycliffe, Dunston and Consett to get there than say Grantham or Belper. I remember when Kendal and Pickering got relegated from Step 4 and it was a coin toss between the 2 which could would come the NL
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Post by sikirk on Dec 11, 2023 18:37:48 GMT
If we got Knaresborough we'd probably end up with Harrogate RA as well and maybe Ilkley. I think a lot of the NL purists would be a bit pissed at the league going south like that. I'd much prefer them over the likes of Carlisle, and worse the hypothetical moves of Kendal and Holker Old Boys (those would be nightmare trips). Oddly enough at step 4 I've seen some suggestions of adding Colne and Clitheroe to the NPL East. Would be much easier for clubs like Aycliffe, Dunston and Consett to get there than say Grantham or Belper. I guess they would play the likes of clithroe in a north/south split but the clubs voted for a east west split
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Post by sikirk on Dec 11, 2023 18:42:32 GMT
To be honest these pyramid debates can go round in circles and moving one club to another league is bound to in/conveince another like swapping say moving penrith and replacing then with say harrogate
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